Anybody here have an original black 67?
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Anybody here have an original black 67?
I have not seen too many that were originaly black. I have seen several convertibles, but only two black coupes. Anyone out there have an original black 67? Is anyone keeping track of such info? I seen where Proteam estimates only 30 are estimated to survive out of the original 815. I am having trouble believing that estimate, surely it has to be over half still in existance. Any thoughts on this?
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Ernie, I have an original triple black (conv.) '67 SB that I've had for about 10+ years. I looked for years wanting a triple black #'s BB and finally came to the conclussion I wasn't going to pay 6 figures. You're right that the real black cars are very hard to find and I think the lowest color production each of the mid-years. I do think there are many more that still survive than the 30 estimate.
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I have a coupe, 327/350, nom, anyhow after I learned how hard to find they are I went through the classifieds and found an ad for a 327 coupe sidepipe car for sale at a local Pontiac dealer with 12,000 miles.
I became curious and figured each state would have received less than 16 black cars each, not counting Alaska and Hawaii. Coupes were less than half in production, so I am thinking the odds are higher than not that the car in the 1968 ad is none other than my car. Just a case where using a rare option to help you pin the history of the car. I am guessing nobody would do a color change on a year old car with 12,000 miles.
I became curious and figured each state would have received less than 16 black cars each, not counting Alaska and Hawaii. Coupes were less than half in production, so I am thinking the odds are higher than not that the car in the 1968 ad is none other than my car. Just a case where using a rare option to help you pin the history of the car. I am guessing nobody would do a color change on a year old car with 12,000 miles.
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Ernie don't be surprised, this used to happen to brand new cars, if the customer insisted on a certain color that was unavailable for some reason, dealers often painted the brand new car to what the customer wanted.
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I was curious about why the black mid-years were rare and spoke with an older vintage corvette guys about this very subject years ago. He said that dealers rarely accepted black car during that time because it wasn't the "In" color and were very hard to sale. He said most of the Black mid-years most likely were COPO/special order car and he also felt that the social climate of the time may have had some influence. Just things to think about......
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Depends on the make of car back then. Corvettes were sporty so you saw an unusually high percentage of red ones. Cadillacs were more formal, so you saw lots of sedans in black, for company car leases, chauffeured urban hire-car services and funeral homes!
#8
Hi,
I have a black 67 cpe. with over 300,000 miles on it since last restoration in 1990. It is air,steering,brakes, 300hp,4spd,side exhaust,saddle leather. My favorite car.
Later Mike
I have a black 67 cpe. with over 300,000 miles on it since last restoration in 1990. It is air,steering,brakes, 300hp,4spd,side exhaust,saddle leather. My favorite car.
Later Mike
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A friend of mine has a black/saddle interior 67 427/390 4 speed coupe. It is a legit black 67, with an NCRS Top Flight. He's had the car since about 1980.
Black wouldn't have been a COPO or special order as it was a regular production color for 63-67. Whether dealers would regularly order a black car for stock is another story, but that wouldn't make black a COPO or special order color.
Tastes change, try to by a dark brown car today, yet it was a very popular color in the mid 70s. White is always one of the more popular colors, but blues, reds, black and greens, come and go. I was a fleet manager for a company at one time. In the 80s and early 90s, green wasn't very popular, the leasing company we used would charge a premium for green cars, because they were harder to dispose of at the end of the lease.
I think the popuarity of black has been helped by the improvements in the effectiveness of AC systems too. A black mid-year coupe, without air, would not have been my choice as a daily driver, especialty if I lived in Florida or most other southern states.
Tastes change, try to by a dark brown car today, yet it was a very popular color in the mid 70s. White is always one of the more popular colors, but blues, reds, black and greens, come and go. I was a fleet manager for a company at one time. In the 80s and early 90s, green wasn't very popular, the leasing company we used would charge a premium for green cars, because they were harder to dispose of at the end of the lease.
I think the popuarity of black has been helped by the improvements in the effectiveness of AC systems too. A black mid-year coupe, without air, would not have been my choice as a daily driver, especialty if I lived in Florida or most other southern states.
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Early car ~3000 s/n sold originally at Briggs Chevrolet
I bought it in 85 after sitting at a body shop since 74..
Black w/ Saddle interior originally a 435, I believe, it was changed to an L88 with a CE block.
Stupid me sold it in 2000.
Early car ~3000 s/n sold originally at Briggs Chevrolet
I bought it in 85 after sitting at a body shop since 74..
Black w/ Saddle interior originally a 435, I believe, it was changed to an L88 with a CE block.
Stupid me sold it in 2000.
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I have not seen too many that were originaly black. I have seen several convertibles, but only two black coupes. Anyone out there have an original black 67? Is anyone keeping track of such info? I seen where Proteam estimates only 30 are estimated to survive out of the original 815. I am having trouble believing that estimate, surely it has to be over half still in existance. Any thoughts on this?
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had a thread on this for my 65. Black was the lowest production run color in all the mid years. Probably a number of reasons already stated, AC was not pervasive so black is not popular in hot climates, black show dirt more than lighter cars, etc, etc.
in 65 the black production vehicles were 1191 out of ~23k total cars produced. I think only about 5% were black....
in 65 the black production vehicles were 1191 out of ~23k total cars produced. I think only about 5% were black....
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Mike,
Interesting, Like I said earlier, I have not heard of very many original black coupes around. I know how you feel. I sold my 1967 GTX right before entering the service out of high school. I had always regretted that decision.
Interesting, Like I said earlier, I have not heard of very many original black coupes around. I know how you feel. I sold my 1967 GTX right before entering the service out of high school. I had always regretted that decision.