NCRS Defined motor paint overspray
10-21-2009, 10:23 PM
#41
Hey, I agree with you and I am a ncrs member, cars where I lived NEVER had any overspray of any kind on the motors and as a 17-18 y/o I was really into the tiny, tiny details back in the day so I am a believer a few of the "in group" invented the overspray thing and made everyone else live with it as many other things ncrs approves of.....my 2cents and no disrespect to ncrs or the judges, just my observations and opinion.
10-21-2009, 11:48 PM
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I have been a member of NCRS for more then 25 years, I do not have overspray on anything because that is the way I wanted it. It I ever have the car judged, I may take a hit but I am not concerned. I bought the car for me to restore and enjoy, not to try to please everyone else. If the next owner wants to put overspray on stuff, that's fine with me.
This "overspray" thing is very subjective. It all depends on who at the factory was doing what and where the body was built etc.
Just my opinion.
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10-22-2009, 03:37 AM
#43
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Hey, I agree with you and I am a ncrs member, cars where I lived NEVER had any overspray of any kind on the motors and as a 17-18 y/o I was really into the tiny, tiny details back in the day so I am a believer a few of the "in group" invented the overspray thing and made everyone else live with it as many other things ncrs approves of.....my 2cents and no disrespect to ncrs or the judges, just my observations and opinion.
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10-22-2009, 09:26 AM
#44
I pretty much agree with Mike Ward on this (and of course John's pictures further emphasize the point).
One reason the manuals might be a little vague is because of the situation 65747785 mentioned above, where his entire intake was painted. We know multiple people did these jobs and no 2 did them exactly alike. Therefore, it would be really tough to say with any certainty exactly how much overspray should be present because every car could be a little different.
People who say all NCRS members are nerds who obsess over minor details, and are afraid to drive the snot out them because they are trailer queens probably does not know many members well. Sure, there are some who do not drive the cars while they are being restored/judged, but many take the cars through the judging process and then get a lot of enjoyment out of driving them.
I know one member with a real 1963 Z06 coupe who puts quite a few miles on his car and still participates in the judging process with it, and has regional and national Top Flights to show for it.
Another very prominent member (high point Master Judge, former president of the NCRS) has a 57 FI car that he (gasp!) races auto cross with.
Even Roy Braatz, who can always be counted on to disparage his fellow NCRS members has received a national level Top Flight for his '55.
I guess I just don't get it, and probably never will. In the meantime, I will continue to pay my NCRS dues and attend as many functions as I can. For me, it is fun to talk shop with fellow members and to spend quality time with the cars, whether it be behind the wheel or as a judge.
One reason the manuals might be a little vague is because of the situation 65747785 mentioned above, where his entire intake was painted. We know multiple people did these jobs and no 2 did them exactly alike. Therefore, it would be really tough to say with any certainty exactly how much overspray should be present because every car could be a little different.
People who say all NCRS members are nerds who obsess over minor details, and are afraid to drive the snot out them because they are trailer queens probably does not know many members well. Sure, there are some who do not drive the cars while they are being restored/judged, but many take the cars through the judging process and then get a lot of enjoyment out of driving them.
I know one member with a real 1963 Z06 coupe who puts quite a few miles on his car and still participates in the judging process with it, and has regional and national Top Flights to show for it.
Another very prominent member (high point Master Judge, former president of the NCRS) has a 57 FI car that he (gasp!) races auto cross with.
Even Roy Braatz, who can always be counted on to disparage his fellow NCRS members has received a national level Top Flight for his '55.
I guess I just don't get it, and probably never will. In the meantime, I will continue to pay my NCRS dues and attend as many functions as I can. For me, it is fun to talk shop with fellow members and to spend quality time with the cars, whether it be behind the wheel or as a judge.
11-18-2009, 02:33 PM
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Overspray???
Well Corvette owners here in Norway also do that overspray to have the car as much as possible as it was when it left the factory.
I really cant say that i find it good looking!
If i was restoring a Vette again i would never have overspray on any parts.I really dont like that overspray look.
really looks like a job pore done to me!
Well Corvette owners here in Norway also do that overspray to have the car as much as possible as it was when it left the factory.
I really cant say that i find it good looking!
If i was restoring a Vette again i would never have overspray on any parts.I really dont like that overspray look.
really looks like a job pore done to me!
11-18-2009, 03:32 PM
#46
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Hey, I agree with you and I am a ncrs member, cars where I lived NEVER had any overspray of any kind on the motors and as a 17-18 y/o I was really into the tiny, tiny details back in the day so I am a believer a few of the "in group" invented the overspray thing and made everyone else live with it as many other things ncrs approves of.....my 2cents and no disrespect to ncrs or the judges, just my observations and opinion.
Here's a picture of an unrestored '59 FI unit. There is no overspray on the rear of the manifold.
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11-18-2009, 03:42 PM
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11-18-2009, 05:15 PM
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Here's a convenient example of what Joel mentions:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-a...tour-pics.html
Looking at the photo of the cars all lined up on the grass, I can see at least two National Top Flight cars and a Star car in the first row alone not to mention a couple Regional and Chapter Top Flighters.
There again, if you scroll all the way down, you'll see a troll-like post from our friend that started THIS post. A pattern maybe?
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-a...tour-pics.html
Looking at the photo of the cars all lined up on the grass, I can see at least two National Top Flight cars and a Star car in the first row alone not to mention a couple Regional and Chapter Top Flighters.
There again, if you scroll all the way down, you'll see a troll-like post from our friend that started THIS post. A pattern maybe?
11-18-2009, 05:35 PM
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I wonder if this is the type of legacy argument Duntov envisioned some forty-five years ago when overseeing the development of the Corvette....
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11-18-2009, 05:55 PM
#50
The NCRS cannot define the amount of over spray on intakes, manifolds, bell housings etc...
It was done by hand by a painter, so the amount of over spray varies. As an example, the General painted right over the exhaust manifolds as they were bolted to the engine.
Intake was already installed before paint was applied to heads etc...
I really used to be into the science of Corvette factory building. On my last build, the over spray was not done. I don't frown on those that do tho!
It was done by hand by a painter, so the amount of over spray varies. As an example, the General painted right over the exhaust manifolds as they were bolted to the engine.
Intake was already installed before paint was applied to heads etc...
I really used to be into the science of Corvette factory building. On my last build, the over spray was not done. I don't frown on those that do tho!
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