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Old 10-15-2007, 12:26 PM
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I'm in the market for a car trailer winch that won't brake the bank. I really only need it right now to load and unload my 65 a few times during the painting process as the interior is gutted. I was looking at the Warn Works PullzAll as I could use that around the garage in the future but I think it's a little on the lite side. Anyway, what are you guys using or have used ? Thanks

AC or DC as I have a Honda 3000eu Gen in the bed of my truck.

WARN Works PullzAll

http://www.warn.com/works/index.shtml


also looking at this one

WARN Works® 1700

http://www.warn.com/works/dcwinches/1700DC.shtml

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I ran across this in my internet travels:

FOR TRAILER USE


On trailers, a winch is typically used to pull a boat, car, or tractor etc. on to the trailer bed. Since the loads being pulled are not stuck and usually have wheels, the load (car, tractor, etc.) is considered to be a rolling load. Rolling loads are much easier on the winch, allowing the winch to pull more than its rated line pull capacity.
Basicly the chart that went alone with this states that a 1800 lb. winch will pull rolling stock (IE car onto a trailer) up to 7525 lbs on a 10% slope or 6527 lbs on a 30% slope.

I have a dual axel open trailer with dove tail and ramps and based on that the Warn Works 1700 lb ($85) should work for me. Does this sound right?

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not sure what type of winch I have, but it is DC with its own battery on the front of the trailer. WOW, I am glad I have it, to load or unload anything on the trailer is a breeze with this, without it, well it just isn't going to happen. With the winch I don't have to worry about burning up clutches it is actually quite easy for one person to load and unload the trailer.

If you need more info on my winch, let me know....Herb



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Herb, do you know what the rating is on your winch?
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Originally Posted by Mr D.
I ran across this in my internet travels:



Basicly the chart that went alone with this states that a 1800 lb. winch will pull rolling stock (IE car onto a trailer) up to 7525 lbs on a 10% slope or 6527 lbs on a 30% slope.

I have a dual axel open trailer with dove tail and ramps and based on that the Warn Works 1700 lb ($85) should work for me. Does this sound right?
I have a 3000 lb Superwinch in my trailer (model GP3000, about $285 from Summit Racing) and I find that it has to grunt a little to pull my 2400 lb vintage race car in. So I'd be a little leery of depending on a 1700 lb winch to load a 3000 lb car.

Do you know if the fine print that goes with the chart indicates that a "****** block" was used in the testing? A ****** block is a pulley and a hook that you use to effectively double the pulling capacity of a winch at the expense of cutting your line length in half. It'd be a great way to generate impressive, but slightly misleading, specs.

For my money, and others may disagree, I'd opt for a more capable winch.

Good luck,

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Thanks Jim, the chart didn't talk about a ****** block. I agree the 1700 lb sounds a little on the lite side for a 3000 lb car.
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I went the cheap route - 20 foot tow strap (out of my jeep), 8 foot come-a-long, and about an hour.
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I assume you have an open trailer. Most guys with closed trailers have permanent winches mounted that have a sperate battery that charges from your vehicle everytime the vehicle is hooked to the trailer.

I have a number of cars including a BB 67 Vette and I use a Superwinch 4000#. Frankly I would not use anything lighter than this. Why save a few buck and have an accident.
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Originally Posted by jim lockwood
Do you know if the fine print that goes with the chart indicates that a "****** block" was used in the testing?
Superwinch's website states that their Trailer winch the S4000 will pull a rolling weight of 11,905 lbs on a 20% grade that they state is a 2 ft incline for every 20 ft.
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Yes, I too use a Superwinch S-4000 mounted in my 24ft enclosed car trailer. I haul my '58 Corvette or my 68 Olds 442. The Olds weighs in at a hefty 3654 lbs. and the winch works just fine. I especially like the freespooling feature and the remote switch. This makes one person loading and unloading a breeze.

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Originally Posted by vettefred
Yes, I too use a Superwinch S-4000 mounted in my 24ft enclosed car trailer. I haul my '58 Corvette or my 68 Olds 442. The Olds weighs in at a hefty 3654 lbs. and the winch works just fine. I especially like the freespooling feature and the remote switch. This makes one person loading and unloading a breeze.

Regards,

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Looks like I'm going with a Superwinch S Series in the 4000-5000 lb class. They are made for a trailer and look nicer than the rest of the market out there. I missed a used S4500 on that auction site last night for $150, went to buy this morning and it was gone. Found a S5000 on the net for $409 w/ free shipping that seems to be the best deal out there.

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