Auto to Manual conversion
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St. Jude Donor '10
Auto to Manual conversion
I love this forum. Lots of good feedback Here is another question: How difficult is it to convert a Powerglide car to a manual transmission set up?
I have the opprotunity to purchase a nice mid-year roadster that has an automatic transmission. I really want a manual transmission and an contemplating having it converted or doing it my self. I was looking into the Kiesler 5-Speed transmission - comments?
I have the opprotunity to purchase a nice mid-year roadster that has an automatic transmission. I really want a manual transmission and an contemplating having it converted or doing it my self. I was looking into the Kiesler 5-Speed transmission - comments?
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You can find manual-shift pedal assemblies on Ebay.
Then you'll need the clutch linkages and pivot shaft. Those are also easy to find.
If you're going to convert to a hydraulic-release clutch you're going to have to do some fabrication. But the standard mechanical clutch release is pretty easy to do.
If I'm not mistaken, all the Mid-Years had the tab on the frame for the pivot shaft so you just have to make sure your engine block has the tapped hole for the ball stud. If your engine doesn't have that, there are brackets available that bolt to the bellhousing.
The rest... flywheel, clutch, bellhousing, transmission and shifter are all easy, easy, easy to find.
There are some recent detailed threads regarding the 5-speed kits that are definitely worth reading.
Then you'll need the clutch linkages and pivot shaft. Those are also easy to find.
If you're going to convert to a hydraulic-release clutch you're going to have to do some fabrication. But the standard mechanical clutch release is pretty easy to do.
If I'm not mistaken, all the Mid-Years had the tab on the frame for the pivot shaft so you just have to make sure your engine block has the tapped hole for the ball stud. If your engine doesn't have that, there are brackets available that bolt to the bellhousing.
The rest... flywheel, clutch, bellhousing, transmission and shifter are all easy, easy, easy to find.
There are some recent detailed threads regarding the 5-speed kits that are definitely worth reading.
Last edited by Seaside63; 08-10-2005 at 09:44 AM.
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I have done the conversion on a 65 to a Munsie before and it is straight forward. All parts are easily available and the Z-bar bracket is on the frame. Cost is ~$1.5k, plus console, the parts you can sell should bring ~$500.
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Charlief
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66 Coupe
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I did an automatic-to-4-speed manual conversion on an 80 vette, and it wasn't too bad. I would recommend getting the conversion kit from Kiesler that includes the pedals, bellhousing, clutch, etc. They offer it separately from the 5-speed kits, and it would save you on locating the right parts that all fit together, and you would have new parts to work with, not 40 year-old used-up original parts. On the 80, I had to weld the clutch pivot Z-bar bracket on the frame, but that was the only welding that I had to do. I'm not sure if the midyear frames included the brackets or not. Good luck!
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Accumulating parts now for my conversion also. Have all the clutch linkage parts but no bracket on the 76 auto frame.
How much trouble was it to weld it in? Looks like there is a brake line assembly mounted in the same location on the frame.
I called keissler, they just want to sell the whole kit with trans.
I was considering going hydraulic but need some help choosing a workable master and slave combination.
I was thinking that a small block bell housing from a truck already setup for a hydraulic slave might be a way to go. Any ideas?
How much trouble was it to weld it in? Looks like there is a brake line assembly mounted in the same location on the frame.
I called keissler, they just want to sell the whole kit with trans.
I was considering going hydraulic but need some help choosing a workable master and slave combination.
I was thinking that a small block bell housing from a truck already setup for a hydraulic slave might be a way to go. Any ideas?
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Just buy the frame bracket, align it with the Z-bar attached to the bracket and engine stud, and weld it on. That way you can use all stock parts and don't have to cobble up the car for a hydraulic setup.
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Originally Posted by tentuna
I think all C2 chassis have the Z-bar bracket welded from the GM, I have never seen one without it.
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Thanks for your input. Reading these responses and the threads on the Keisler 5 speed, I am contemplating purchasing the Auto to Manual kit from Keisler.
I live on the west coast (Portland, OR) any suggested shops to do the conversion? The car I'm buying is in Texas. I have read that B&M Automotive (Knoxville, TN) does good work. I could purchase the car ship it to B&M and then home. The only thing I'm concerned about is any follow and or warranty work on the installation. Unlikely that I would send the car back if the installation developed problems.
Does anyone have some suggestions?
I live on the west coast (Portland, OR) any suggested shops to do the conversion? The car I'm buying is in Texas. I have read that B&M Automotive (Knoxville, TN) does good work. I could purchase the car ship it to B&M and then home. The only thing I'm concerned about is any follow and or warranty work on the installation. Unlikely that I would send the car back if the installation developed problems.
Does anyone have some suggestions?