Please Help Determine If These #'s Are Correct
05-09-2005, 04:34 PM
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Please Help Determine If These #'s Are Correct
Can Someone Please Help Me. Im Looking At A 65 Roadster With A Body Build Date Of J05, The Engine Casting Date Is E15, And The Stamp On The Front Of The Block Is T0517if, The Vin Is Also There And Matches The Car. Is This Correct That The Body Was Built Before The Engine?
05-09-2005, 06:25 PM
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According to figures in the restoration guide by Noland Adams your car was assembled May 5th. And your engine May 17th. Car bodies assembled at A O Smith were shipped to St Louis for final assembly. Average delay was 8 to 12 days. I am sure exceptions occured. Add the 12 days to May 5 and you have it in St Louis on May 17th.I would guess this adds up and the engine is original.
I hope this helps.
I hope this helps.
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05-09-2005, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TESTADURO
The Body Is An Ao Smith Body With A Vin Of 194675s118621
05-10-2005, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TESTADURO
Can Someone Please Help Me. Im Looking At A 65 Roadster With A Body Build Date Of J05, The Engine Casting Date Is E15, And The Stamp On The Front Of The Block Is T0517if, The Vin Is Also There And Matches The Car. Is This Correct That The Body Was Built Before The Engine?
NCRS judging manual shows final serial # for May is 118573, so would interpret to an early June serial, which correspnds to a K Body Build date.
Engine:E15
May 15 cast, 5/17 assembly
*There is a notation that the cylinder casing with dates of E or beyond are embossed with "Hi Perf" on the right bell housting mounting flange, and NOT "Pass" as on earlier blocks.
05-10-2005, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dicon
Check that trim tag again.... S= St Louis, A=A0 Smith.
NCRS judging manual shows final serial # for May is 118573, so would interpret to an early June serial, which correspnds to a K Body Build date.
Engine:E15
May 15 cast, 5/17 assembly
*There is a notation that the cylinder casing with dates of E or beyond are embossed with "Hi Perf" on the right bell housting mounting flange, and NOT "Pass" as on earlier blocks.
NCRS judging manual shows final serial # for May is 118573, so would interpret to an early June serial, which correspnds to a K Body Build date.
Engine:E15
May 15 cast, 5/17 assembly
*There is a notation that the cylinder casing with dates of E or beyond are embossed with "Hi Perf" on the right bell housting mounting flange, and NOT "Pass" as on earlier blocks.
05-10-2005, 11:36 AM
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Last May serial was 18753 (not 573), and 18621 shows as produced at St. Louis on May 27th. With a May 5th body build date at A.O. Smith, that means the body sat at St. Louis for 10-12 days after delivery, which is unusual (unless it was waiting for a material shortage).
The engine cast date (E 1 5) is May 1st, 1965, with a May 17th assembly date. If it's a 962 block with the cast date down by the starter, it could be a legit L-78.
The engine cast date (E 1 5) is May 1st, 1965, with a May 17th assembly date. If it's a 962 block with the cast date down by the starter, it could be a legit L-78.
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05-10-2005, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnZ
Last May serial was 18753 (not 573), and 18621 shows as produced at St. Louis on May 27th. With a May 5th body build date at A.O. Smith, that means the body sat at St. Louis for 10-12 days after delivery, which is unusual (unless it was waiting for a material shortage).
The engine cast date (E 1 5) is May 1st, 1965, with a May 17th assembly date. If it's a 942 block with the cast date down by the starter, it could be a legit L-78.
The engine cast date (E 1 5) is May 1st, 1965, with a May 17th assembly date. If it's a 942 block with the cast date down by the starter, it could be a legit L-78.
05-11-2005, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by skyman51
There were no 396 engines in 1965 with a 942 block. They were all 962. If you have a 942 block it is very likely a 66 or 67 427. Something doesn't make sense here.
05-12-2005, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnZ
Last May serial was 18753 (not 573), and 18621 shows as produced at St. Louis on May 27th. With a May 5th body build date at A.O. Smith, that means the body sat at St. Louis for 10-12 days after delivery, which is unusual (unless it was waiting for a material shortage).
The engine cast date (E 1 5) is May 1st, 1965, with a May 17th assembly date. If it's a 962 block with the cast date down by the starter, it could be a legit L-78.
The engine cast date (E 1 5) is May 1st, 1965, with a May 17th assembly date. If it's a 962 block with the cast date down by the starter, it could be a legit L-78.
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05-12-2005, 09:14 AM
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According to the Corvette Specification Guide and the book "Essentials"
by Chuck Bridgermann the last 65 C-2 VIN for May was 118753. Methinks there is a typo error on the TI & J Guide ..
by Chuck Bridgermann the last 65 C-2 VIN for May was 118753. Methinks there is a typo error on the TI & J Guide ..
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05-12-2005, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Donald #31176
According to the Corvette Specification Guide and the book "Essentials"
by Chuck Bridgermann the last 65 C-2 VIN for May was 118753. Methinks there is a typo error on the TI & J Guide ..
by Chuck Bridgermann the last 65 C-2 VIN for May was 118753. Methinks there is a typo error on the TI & J Guide ..
The NCRS 1965 Judging Manual states the final serial number for May is 118573, but the NCRS Pocket Spec Guide states 118753. Looks like a typo in the Judging manual to me. 
05-13-2005, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by stingrayl76
The NCRS 1965 Judging Manual states the final serial number for May is 118573, but the NCRS Pocket Spec Guide states 118753. Looks like a typo in the Judging manual to me. Guess Ill bring this up to NCRS publishing as this could cause a real issue for some collector that does not have all three books for a tie breaker.
