Raise ride height = toe change?? Mountainbiker!!
06-01-2016, 12:04 AM
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Raise ride height = toe change?? Mountainbiker!!
I am sure it will & will confirm tomorrow. Those new 315's on the front do not clear my fenders, I am lowered all the way stock bolts t1 spring.
So will it toe in or out?
I am doing it tomorrow.
So will it toe in or out?
I am doing it tomorrow.
Last edited by froggy47; 06-01-2016 at 12:05 AM.
06-01-2016, 07:06 PM
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I raised the front about 5/8 inch and added some stops on the shocks. I know that's not so cool, but beats tearing the fenders up with this setup. Will ck toe Thurs. & let you all know.
06-01-2016, 09:51 PM
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06-01-2016, 11:05 PM
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When you raise or lower the car, the tires will either point more inwards or outwards depending on lowering or raising - toe in or toe out.
bump steer - if you go over a bump on a turn, you can feel the steering wheel move left or right in your hands. Bump steer - the steering angle changes when you hit a bump. Ideally you want the tire to just go up and down with the bump, not change the driving angle of the tire (move the steering wheel).
bump steer - if you go over a bump on a turn, you can feel the steering wheel move left or right in your hands. Bump steer - the steering angle changes when you hit a bump. Ideally you want the tire to just go up and down with the bump, not change the driving angle of the tire (move the steering wheel).
06-02-2016, 12:01 AM
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When you raise or lower the car, the tires will either point more inwards or outwards depending on lowering or raising - toe in or toe out.
bump steer - if you go over a bump on a turn, you can feel the steering wheel move left or right in your hands. Bump steer - the steering angle changes when you hit a bump. Ideally you want the tire to just go up and down with the bump, not change the driving angle of the tire (move the steering wheel).
bump steer - if you go over a bump on a turn, you can feel the steering wheel move left or right in your hands. Bump steer - the steering angle changes when you hit a bump. Ideally you want the tire to just go up and down with the bump, not change the driving angle of the tire (move the steering wheel).
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06-02-2016, 09:48 AM
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Typically when you "bump" a car and measure it and adjust the kit right you would go 1" down from ride height and 1" up from ride height (we did 1 down and 2 up) but you are trying to get the tie rod to move in the same path as the control arms. While not always perfect you would like the tire not to change...or if anything the front to bump out and the rear to bump in under compression. So that being said it would depend on how you adjusted that.
06-02-2016, 11:18 AM
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Typically when you "bump" a car and measure it and adjust the kit right you would go 1" down from ride height and 1" up from ride height (we did 1 down and 2 up) but you are trying to get the tie rod to move in the same path as the control arms. While not always perfect you would like the tire not to change...or if anything the front to bump out and the rear to bump in under compression. So that being said it would depend on how you adjusted that.
Last edited by froggy47; 06-06-2016 at 01:57 PM.
06-02-2016, 11:25 AM
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Yes, a shorter than OEM shock is what meant. I use shortened Penske shocks. I was wondering what your wheel offset is. From measurements I took using 295 Hoosier on stock 17/9.5 , I was thinking the BFG 315 would probably work on a 18/10.5 with 65mm offset.
06-02-2016, 03:16 PM
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I am up to about 1.5 inch static gap on the fender and limited the shock travel to about 5/8 inch. There is more to it with wheels turning & suspension geometry of course. I don't know how Mountainbiker had a bigger gap with his car lowered all the way in the front, I have the adjusters screwed down about 3/4 of their travel to get to here.
06-02-2016, 06:27 PM
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Stock Z06 springs? Is that what you have? Back to your original question. I believe when you lower the front, it goes to more toe in. Raise the front, it will go more toe out. When you lower the rear, it goes to more toe out. Raise the rear, it goes more towards toe in. There you go. Don't quote me on this. You have to check for sure. Let us know.
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06-02-2016, 08:26 PM
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Stock Z06 springs? Is that what you have? Back to your original question. I believe when you lower the front, it goes to more toe in. Raise the front, it will go more toe out. When you lower the rear, it goes to more toe out. Raise the rear, it goes more towards toe in. There you go. Don't quote me on this. You have to check for sure. Let us know.
You are the first one to take a shot at the OP question, phew. Winner!
I think the adjuster PAD on the t1 is shorter that oem, I have oem springs have to check that.
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06-02-2016, 09:21 PM
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I was able to get my front tire pushed all the way up into the fender. It actually didn't even touch. I had an o-ring on the shock. Then I took off the wheel. Made a solid bump stop according to the o-ring height. The cars not going to use that much travel, but just in case.
