At the Roar...
01-04-2014, 06:50 PM
#1
Melting Slicks
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At the Roar...
...and the fact that there are no Corvettes in the GTD class is criminal. BIG sin.
Those that are:
Dodge Viper
Porsche 911
Aston
Audi R8
Ferrari 458
BMW Z4
...with reports that McLaren, Lamborghini, Lotus and others will be joining by Sebring.
I cannot imagine why GM has zero interest in anyone racing a Corvette, other than them. Blows my mind.
Those that are:
Dodge Viper
Porsche 911
Aston
Audi R8
Ferrari 458
BMW Z4
...with reports that McLaren, Lamborghini, Lotus and others will be joining by Sebring.
I cannot imagine why GM has zero interest in anyone racing a Corvette, other than them. Blows my mind.
Last edited by dfinke23; 01-04-2014 at 07:08 PM.
01-04-2014, 08:21 PM
#2
Drifting
Not sure the C7R is a Corvette.
If you look at the 911, Audi, Ferrari, BMW, or especially the gorgeous fleet of Aston Martin Racing cars they really look like they started life as a production chassis.
Audi has really taken much of the class over with there efforts.
The C7R doesn't look like it has a single production part on it, and didn't look like a factory Chevrolet effort, looked like a well financed one off 2 car team.
Unlike the Mazda team that had engineers everywhere for the new Skyactive effort.
If you look at the 911, Audi, Ferrari, BMW, or especially the gorgeous fleet of Aston Martin Racing cars they really look like they started life as a production chassis.
Audi has really taken much of the class over with there efforts.
The C7R doesn't look like it has a single production part on it, and didn't look like a factory Chevrolet effort, looked like a well financed one off 2 car team.
Unlike the Mazda team that had engineers everywhere for the new Skyactive effort.
Last edited by blkbrd69; 01-04-2014 at 08:23 PM.
01-04-2014, 08:45 PM
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Not sure the C7R is a Corvette.
If you look at the 911, Audi, Ferrari, BMW, or especially the gorgeous fleet of Aston Martin Racing cars they really look like they started life as a production chassis.
Audi has really taken much of the class over with there efforts.
The C7R doesn't look like it has a single production part on it, and didn't look like a factory Chevrolet effort, looked like a well financed one off 2 car team.
Unlike the Mazda team that had engineers everywhere for the new Skyactive effort.
If you look at the 911, Audi, Ferrari, BMW, or especially the gorgeous fleet of Aston Martin Racing cars they really look like they started life as a production chassis.
Audi has really taken much of the class over with there efforts.
The C7R doesn't look like it has a single production part on it, and didn't look like a factory Chevrolet effort, looked like a well financed one off 2 car team.
Unlike the Mazda team that had engineers everywhere for the new Skyactive effort.
Wow!
01-04-2014, 08:46 PM
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Here are some pictures from the Roar that I lifted from another site:
One of the DP Vettes turned a 38.x and the #4 C7R ran a 45.7.
One of the DP Vettes turned a 38.x and the #4 C7R ran a 45.7.
01-04-2014, 08:47 PM
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...and the fact that there are no Corvettes in the GTD class is criminal. BIG sin.
Those that are:
Dodge Viper
Porsche 911
Aston
Audi R8
Ferrari 458
BMW Z4
...with reports that McLaren, Lamborghini, Lotus and others will be joining by Sebring.
I cannot imagine why GM has zero interest in anyone racing a Corvette, other than them. Blows my mind.
Those that are:
Dodge Viper
Porsche 911
Aston
Audi R8
Ferrari 458
BMW Z4
...with reports that McLaren, Lamborghini, Lotus and others will be joining by Sebring.
I cannot imagine why GM has zero interest in anyone racing a Corvette, other than them. Blows my mind.
Somebody here must know someone on the Corvette race team. Any idea why not?
01-04-2014, 09:16 PM
#6
Burning Brakes
Not sure the C7R is a Corvette.
If you look at the 911, Audi, Ferrari, BMW, or especially the gorgeous fleet of Aston Martin Racing cars they really look like they started life as a production chassis.
Audi has really taken much of the class over with there efforts.
The C7R doesn't look like it has a single production part on it, and didn't look like a factory Chevrolet effort, looked like a well financed one off 2 car team.
Unlike the Mazda team that had engineers everywhere for the new Skyactive effort.
If you look at the 911, Audi, Ferrari, BMW, or especially the gorgeous fleet of Aston Martin Racing cars they really look like they started life as a production chassis.
Audi has really taken much of the class over with there efforts.
The C7R doesn't look like it has a single production part on it, and didn't look like a factory Chevrolet effort, looked like a well financed one off 2 car team.
Unlike the Mazda team that had engineers everywhere for the new Skyactive effort.
01-04-2014, 11:11 PM
#7
Drifting
...and the fact that there are no Corvettes in the GTD class is criminal. BIG sin.
Those that are:
Dodge Viper
Porsche 911
Aston
Audi R8
Ferrari 458
BMW Z4
...with reports that McLaren, Lamborghini, Lotus and others will be joining by Sebring.
I cannot imagine why GM has zero interest in anyone racing a Corvette, other than them. Blows my mind.
Those that are:
Dodge Viper
Porsche 911
Aston
Audi R8
Ferrari 458
BMW Z4
...with reports that McLaren, Lamborghini, Lotus and others will be joining by Sebring.
I cannot imagine why GM has zero interest in anyone racing a Corvette, other than them. Blows my mind.
GTD really doesn't get any media attention. The vast majority of media attention is in the GTLM class, with the "factory" involvement . . . not only Corvette Racing, but the Rahal Letterman BMWs, the factory Viper program, the factory Porsche program, the factory AM program. The Viper in GTD wouldn't exist but Ben Keating essentially underwrote the GT3-R program.
GM/Corvette Racing is in racing to translate their involvement into sales, and there are metrics to "justify" the investment. They track fan involvement and "walk throughs" at their display at the ALMS races, and track sales as a result of the visibility. Doug Fehan spoke at a SAE Mid-Michigan dinner function a month ago that I attended, and he commented that when GM racing programs are reviewed, Corvette Racing has always justified their investment. When all of GM's racing programs were reviewed as part of the bankruptcy reorganization, the NASCAR program was cut by approx 50%, other forms of racing essentially de-funded, but Corvette Racing was able to maintain their budget.
If the TV and print coverage started to increase for GTD, I'd think that GM would then follow. Then they should get Dempsey Racing to run Corvettes, to guarantee lots of visibility/coverage
Last edited by acrace; 01-04-2014 at 11:15 PM.
01-04-2014, 11:14 PM
#8
Drifting
Having toured the Pratt & Miller facility several times, and having seen the previous ALMS cars up close, I would respectfully disagree on both counts.
01-05-2014, 07:44 AM
#9
If the C7.R is not production based, you will hear a lot of uproar, since the rules state that it must be, and the homologation book that accompanies the car must show that it is with documentation.
01-05-2014, 08:27 AM
#10
Safety Car
Add to that some statements by GM that the C7.R was developed side by side with the new Z06 and I think they'll find more "production" parts than people think.
01-05-2014, 09:58 AM
#11
Melting Slicks
Dave, do you have any insight what they did to allow DPs and P2s to run in the same class? Did they up the HP in the DPs and dumb down the P2s a bit (if I understand the classes correctly)?
01-05-2014, 12:05 PM
#12
Drifting
GM wants Camaros to win in GTD (Stevenson's factory backed effort), and Corvette in GTLM.
GTD isn't eligible at LeMans, which is a critical part of Corvette's marketing program.
Corvette Racing works closely with the ACO and IMSA when developing the new car to ensure it is compliant with the rules.
Considering Corvette Racing has won the drivers and team championships the last two seasons in one of the most hotly contested sports car classes in the world against a number of factory programs, something tells me that they know what they're doing.
GTD isn't eligible at LeMans, which is a critical part of Corvette's marketing program.
Corvette Racing works closely with the ACO and IMSA when developing the new car to ensure it is compliant with the rules.
Considering Corvette Racing has won the drivers and team championships the last two seasons in one of the most hotly contested sports car classes in the world against a number of factory programs, something tells me that they know what they're doing.
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01-05-2014, 12:18 PM
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GM wants Camaros to win in GTD (Stevenson's factory backed effort), and Corvette in GTLM.
GTD isn't eligible at LeMans, which is a critical part of Corvette's marketing program.
Corvette Racing works closely with the ACO and IMSA when developing the new car to ensure it is compliant with the rules.
Considering Corvette Racing has won the drivers and team championships the last two seasons in one of the most hotly contested sports car classes in the world against a number of factory programs, something tells me that they know what they're doing.
GTD isn't eligible at LeMans, which is a critical part of Corvette's marketing program.
Corvette Racing works closely with the ACO and IMSA when developing the new car to ensure it is compliant with the rules.
Considering Corvette Racing has won the drivers and team championships the last two seasons in one of the most hotly contested sports car classes in the world against a number of factory programs, something tells me that they know what they're doing.
Thank You! 
01-05-2014, 02:00 PM
#14
Drifting
GM wants Camaros to win in GTD (Stevenson's factory backed effort), and Corvette in GTLM.
GTD isn't eligible at LeMans, which is a critical part of Corvette's marketing program.
Corvette Racing works closely with the ACO and IMSA when developing the new car to ensure it is compliant with the rules.
Considering Corvette Racing has won the drivers and team championships the last two seasons in one of the most hotly contested sports car classes in the world against a number of factory programs, something tells me that they know what they're doing.
GTD isn't eligible at LeMans, which is a critical part of Corvette's marketing program.
Corvette Racing works closely with the ACO and IMSA when developing the new car to ensure it is compliant with the rules.
Considering Corvette Racing has won the drivers and team championships the last two seasons in one of the most hotly contested sports car classes in the world against a number of factory programs, something tells me that they know what they're doing.
01-05-2014, 02:20 PM
#17
Melting Slicks
Not sure the C7R is a Corvette.
If you look at the 911, Audi, Ferrari, BMW, or especially the gorgeous fleet of Aston Martin Racing cars they really look like they started life as a production chassis.
Audi has really taken much of the class over with there efforts.
The C7R doesn't look like it has a single production part on it, and didn't look like a factory Chevrolet effort, looked like a well financed one off 2 car team.
Unlike the Mazda team that had engineers everywhere for the new Skyactive effort.
If you look at the 911, Audi, Ferrari, BMW, or especially the gorgeous fleet of Aston Martin Racing cars they really look like they started life as a production chassis.
Audi has really taken much of the class over with there efforts.
The C7R doesn't look like it has a single production part on it, and didn't look like a factory Chevrolet effort, looked like a well financed one off 2 car team.
Unlike the Mazda team that had engineers everywhere for the new Skyactive effort.
That's not the C7R.
01-05-2014, 02:46 PM
#18
Drifting
I was commenting on blkbrd69's post (post #2) that the C7R didn't look like it had a production part on it, and didn't look like a factory team.
If any of you ever have the chance to tour the Pratt & Miller facility in South Lyon, Michigan, do it. It's quite impressive, and Pratt & Miller also does a lot of other GM Motorsports work.
01-05-2014, 03:23 PM
#19
Safety Car
Gary Pratt has built an empire with his GM money.
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01-05-2014, 03:39 PM
#20
Drifting