My XP c4 build is in full swing..build log
#62
Small update: Got some work done on my intake manifold yesterday. Mostly just on the plenum. I didn't have a good way of using the press to make a half circle shaped peice of aluminum. So I decided to use the band saw and cut slices to make the shape I was looking for. The nice thing about aluminum welding is the peices don't have to be perfect for it to look good, since you have manipulate the metal so much while welding.
should have some welded pics up tonight.....
thanks,
Zack
should have some welded pics up tonight.....
thanks,
Zack
#64
Worked continued on the intake manifold last night, I welded a peice of flat aluminum on the side to keep it from rolling will I cut a 3" section off the side. This will be the runner flange, and the air horns will mount on the inside of the flange in the plenum.
Zack
Zack
#65
Burning Brakes
I'm old enough to rememeber when 4 cylinder Offenhouser engines were winning Indianapolis, so this thread is exciting to me.
But I must say that these pics of your manifold have me scratching my head!! It looks like a Toy Submarine!!
I can't wait to see what it all looks like when it's in the engine bay and the key is in the START position!!
This could be a world class racing machine!
But I must say that these pics of your manifold have me scratching my head!! It looks like a Toy Submarine!!
I can't wait to see what it all looks like when it's in the engine bay and the key is in the START position!!
This could be a world class racing machine!
#66
I got some more work done on the intake manifold. Its coming along nicely. I will be running a velocity stack inside the plenum to increase runner length since space was still a bit of an issue. I will post more pics as the work continues.
thanks,
Zack
thanks,
Zack
#68
Suckin' gas, haulin' ass.
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on the build man, very nice work.
#69
Yes some of my runner length was determined by space constrictions, I would have rather had a six inch runner and not install velocity stacks inside the manifold as they cause some wierd terbulence at times. The plenum volume is roughly 1.5 times the engine displacement per cycle, I have found this is a good ratio as it increases throttle response due to having enough stored air.
One thing often overlooked when designing a manifold based off numbers is what actually happens when you close the throttle body. I have tuned more than one car where the plenum was massive compared to engine size, or the throttle body was placed on the blower before the intercooler and everything. What happens is because you have so much stored volume with alot of velocity the car almost feels like it continues to accelerate for a split second. This can be a real pain for downshifts and not very confidence inspiring.
Therefore I have found sticking to a maximum 1.5 times engine displacement works fairly well.
The plenum diameter is acually 5", and the runner diameter is 1.75x6. I have not determined the overall plenum legth as I have not mounted the throttle body yet.
Thanks,
Zack
One thing often overlooked when designing a manifold based off numbers is what actually happens when you close the throttle body. I have tuned more than one car where the plenum was massive compared to engine size, or the throttle body was placed on the blower before the intercooler and everything. What happens is because you have so much stored volume with alot of velocity the car almost feels like it continues to accelerate for a split second. This can be a real pain for downshifts and not very confidence inspiring.
Therefore I have found sticking to a maximum 1.5 times engine displacement works fairly well.
The plenum diameter is acually 5", and the runner diameter is 1.75x6. I have not determined the overall plenum legth as I have not mounted the throttle body yet.
Thanks,
Zack
#72
I wish there was more to put up lately, tax returns have brought in alot of work this year and are already bogging me down haha. Ill try to get back to work soon!
Zack
Zack
#74
Le Mans Master
This is an amazing build to follow, I'm subscribed! True craftsmanship with an eye on a goal.
And thanks for describing some of the "why" behind your decisions, helps me learn more.
Good luck!
Mike
And thanks for describing some of the "why" behind your decisions, helps me learn more.
Good luck!
Mike
#75
Burning Brakes
SERIOUSLY, thanks for sharing your thoughts on this outstanding project!! Someday soon, people will be reading this thread and saying, "Look, this guy came up with the idea of running a lightweight high output powertrain in the Corvette long before GM thought about it.
This project has implications far outside the racetrack- When gas hits $5 a gallon, Those Corvette lovers who think it's apostasy to put anything smaller than a V8 into the engine compartment will be whistling another tune!!
Show us how it's done!!
#76
Well I have had a small amount of time to work on the car, so I did some welding and started pulling the interior. I got to get my *** in gear and start pulling some 14 hour days to get this thing done lol.
Car is sitting around 2400lbs right now, Im hoping for under 2500 when completed. We will see if I can maintain my goal.
Couple of pics to keep the log going, should have more in the next couple weeks as im building my custom steering column and ordering up some more turbo parts.
Intercooler came in, just need a turbo and time to finish my exh man and the engine bay will be getting there.
Thanks,
Zack
Car is sitting around 2400lbs right now, Im hoping for under 2500 when completed. We will see if I can maintain my goal.
Couple of pics to keep the log going, should have more in the next couple weeks as im building my custom steering column and ordering up some more turbo parts.
Intercooler came in, just need a turbo and time to finish my exh man and the engine bay will be getting there.
Thanks,
Zack
#77
Burning Brakes
Thanks for the update!
Manifold is looking good!
But don't you think it would go faster (the project, not the car) if you used JB-Weld?? Inquiring minds want to know!!
But don't you think it would go faster (the project, not the car) if you used JB-Weld?? Inquiring minds want to know!!
#78
Alright sorry for the long wait between updates, I have been getting some stuff done but its slow going during race season. I got the lower portion of my manifold ported, and finished the plenum finished as well. Had to have a custom 3"-5" reducer made for my throttle body, luckily my buddy at a laser cutting facility was able to help out with that portion.
I also finally finished my exhaust manifold collector. It turned out pretty well, I have been working on the runners lately at well i will get pics soon.
Finally are some pics of my new race steering column, we used the oem collapsing section from an 80's toyota steering column per the rules of xp I must maintain this. I cut the factory D section off the bottom of the rack so it would hook up to the factory intermediate shaft. And use a firewall bearing and mounting plate. Got a universal quick release and machined the shaft .007 so I could use a normal 3/4 heim for mounting the shaft.
Thanks Ill keep you updated!
Zack
I also finally finished my exhaust manifold collector. It turned out pretty well, I have been working on the runners lately at well i will get pics soon.
Finally are some pics of my new race steering column, we used the oem collapsing section from an 80's toyota steering column per the rules of xp I must maintain this. I cut the factory D section off the bottom of the rack so it would hook up to the factory intermediate shaft. And use a firewall bearing and mounting plate. Got a universal quick release and machined the shaft .007 so I could use a normal 3/4 heim for mounting the shaft.
Thanks Ill keep you updated!
Zack