Barber with Chin
10-18-2010, 11:43 AM
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Thoughts on Barber Turn 4 from a Novice who has had 4 instructors
I'll share some random thoughts about the turn the C5Z went into the wall on.
My first instructor drilled it into my head repeatedly, even grabbed my wheel a couple times (Lion of Barber) to make sure I knew that this blind high speed hump was where cars end up in the wall. Point taken, I always try to be going straight over that hump and not turning until come down.
Another instructor mentioned I was shifting into 4'th too close to the hump. That unsettled the car. He/me wanted that car stable going over the hump. The rpm was ready up there so that was where I shifted, but shifting a bit earlier at a lower rpm was certainly a safer thing to do. Since I don't want to trash any cars, point taken, nuff said.
Another instructor mentioned I was pinching after the turn and having to finish turning at track out where there is usually some kind of rubber or rubble on the track and that wasn't good. I thought, ya I know I was doing that, better than going off track, and I stayed straight over the hump. I didn't really make any correction from this, but was aware of the situation.
My check ride instructor caught the same thing and requested that at track out on 3, instead of turning in mid rumble strip, go to the end and turn in. This made the apex of 4 later and had me already pointing down track more. This way I didnt have to finish the turn out in the rubble. I'm sure that is a bit slower line, but after trying it with him, it did totally take all drama out of the hump at 4.
One instructor showed me (grabbed my wheel and forced)
One instructor got my shift out of the way earlier to make sure car stable, even though a bit early in rpm curve.
One instructor observed and cautioned
One instructor showed alternative and explained.
Just sharing some thoughts for you instructors about what goes through our minds. All the above were beneficial. Don't jump on the wheel grabber, he embedded the line into my brain that way, I have no complaints. The third approach worked best for me though.
Ken . . .
My first instructor drilled it into my head repeatedly, even grabbed my wheel a couple times (Lion of Barber) to make sure I knew that this blind high speed hump was where cars end up in the wall. Point taken, I always try to be going straight over that hump and not turning until come down.
Another instructor mentioned I was shifting into 4'th too close to the hump. That unsettled the car. He/me wanted that car stable going over the hump. The rpm was ready up there so that was where I shifted, but shifting a bit earlier at a lower rpm was certainly a safer thing to do. Since I don't want to trash any cars, point taken, nuff said.
Another instructor mentioned I was pinching after the turn and having to finish turning at track out where there is usually some kind of rubber or rubble on the track and that wasn't good. I thought, ya I know I was doing that, better than going off track, and I stayed straight over the hump. I didn't really make any correction from this, but was aware of the situation.
My check ride instructor caught the same thing and requested that at track out on 3, instead of turning in mid rumble strip, go to the end and turn in. This made the apex of 4 later and had me already pointing down track more. This way I didnt have to finish the turn out in the rubble. I'm sure that is a bit slower line, but after trying it with him, it did totally take all drama out of the hump at 4.
One instructor showed me (grabbed my wheel and forced)
One instructor got my shift out of the way earlier to make sure car stable, even though a bit early in rpm curve.
One instructor observed and cautioned
One instructor showed alternative and explained.
Just sharing some thoughts for you instructors about what goes through our minds. All the above were beneficial. Don't jump on the wheel grabber, he embedded the line into my brain that way, I have no complaints. The third approach worked best for me though.
Ken . . .
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10-18-2010, 12:10 PM
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Mark will probably never own a Corvette or Porsche! He loves his Miata's and NSX's too much. Unfortunately, the black Chin NSX (my former car, btw) had a major suspension failure this weekend and will be down for awhile.
10-20-2010, 07:56 AM
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10-20-2010, 10:45 AM
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Had a great time. Needed to get back to Atlanta for my parent's 60th wedding anniversary dinner.
10-20-2010, 09:47 PM
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