IMSA BoP Released
#1
Safety Car
Thread Starter
IMSA BoP Released
IMSA released the new BoP table on Friday.
Is it really racing when corporate lobbying efforts are more important than the actual performance of the car? Or, am I just getting old?
Richard Newton
Is it really racing when corporate lobbying efforts are more important than the actual performance of the car? Or, am I just getting old?
Richard Newton
#2
Le Mans Master
IMSA released the new BoP table on Friday.
Is it really racing when corporate lobbying efforts are more important than the actual performance of the car? Or, am I just getting old?
Richard Newton
Is it really racing when corporate lobbying efforts are more important than the actual performance of the car? Or, am I just getting old?
Richard Newton
#3
Safety Car
IMSA released the new BoP table on Friday.
Is it really racing when corporate lobbying efforts are more important than the actual performance of the car? Or, am I just getting old?
Richard Newton
Is it really racing when corporate lobbying efforts are more important than the actual performance of the car? Or, am I just getting old?
Richard Newton
No, it is not racing....... and it sucks.......
#4
Le Mans Master
It's great to see this kind of growth and manufacturer involvement. That part is really exciting. It seems there once was displacement restrictions, certain rules...now it's almost like a run what ya brung and let the BOP sort it out. I think that's made it more difficult. You do have a myriad of platforms out there...front, mid and rear engine, turbo and n/a, v8, flat 6, v6, you name it...it's impressive if there can truly be a competitive balance achieved.
End of day though, with Corvette and Porsche being the known carry overs, they should be the teams to beat this year and should be the faster cars. If these new platforms come out blazing fast, before they even know the chassis/car/setups at various tracks then it's gonna be some bs.
End of day though, with Corvette and Porsche being the known carry overs, they should be the teams to beat this year and should be the faster cars. If these new platforms come out blazing fast, before they even know the chassis/car/setups at various tracks then it's gonna be some bs.
#5
I'm just excited the season is about to kick off. BMW will have that M6 kicking Corvette and Porsche butt in no time. I'm betting BMW has the better debut. I'm secretly pulling for the Ford though.
#6
Safety Car
Thread Starter
I think it comes down to the quality of team more than the car. Good teams always do well.
Richard Newton
Restoration Fun
Richard Newton
Restoration Fun
#7
Le Mans Master
they added weight to the vette in the middle of the 2015 season and it couldnt compete...now it adds 45 more pounds. About to sign off on this series. bs. Se the weight and hp and then let it rest for the season. Best team wins
Last edited by VGLNTE1; 12-21-2015 at 05:35 PM.
#11
Le Mans Master
No, that car is staying overseas. That situation has to do with contracts and agreements. Callaway can play with Corvettes over there, Pratt and Miller over here. I'm sure Lou Gigliotti can tell you all about it. I suppose with GT3 being used in Weathertech championship, maybe the presence of the car is possible now. Not sure what politics are involved there.
Last edited by RC000E; 12-27-2015 at 10:55 PM.
#12
Burning Brakes
Why BMW went to the M6 from the Z4 is beyond me. The frontal area of that car vs the Aston, Audi and AMG is pretty substantial, not to mention the Corvette or Ford GT. I didn't see and Porche or Ferarri at the test, are they no longer running the series?
#13
Le Mans Master
They are. Porsche has the new fia spec gt car and Ferrari is running the new 488 6 banger with turbos. Crazy to think no gt cars had fi last year, now all but 2 are na. Vette and Porsche
#14
Melting Slicks
With the BMW, Ferrari, and Ford being all new and significant changes to the Corvette and Porsche, the initial BoP is somewhat guess work, despite the test day. Plus, they need to balance them against all the new GTD/GT3 cars to keep them between them and the PC cars. I've been very vocal about the bad BOP in IMSA, but we'll need to cut them some slack to start this year. They'll get good data at the Roar, but as Daytona is a pretty different setup from the rest of the tracks, even then it likely will not set up for a good start to the season.
I'm okay with updates and changes when it is based on data and not politics. Unfortunately, IMSA doesn't usually work that way. I hold out hope every year, maybe this is the one...
In the Continental series, they literally ruined the GS class. Last year so a good variety of cars (Camaros, Mustangs, 911s, Aston Martin, BMWs, Nissans). This year it looks like it will be a bunch of Cayman GT4s and a couple of Mustangs, although not everythingfinalized.
I'm okay with updates and changes when it is based on data and not politics. Unfortunately, IMSA doesn't usually work that way. I hold out hope every year, maybe this is the one...
In the Continental series, they literally ruined the GS class. Last year so a good variety of cars (Camaros, Mustangs, 911s, Aston Martin, BMWs, Nissans). This year it looks like it will be a bunch of Cayman GT4s and a couple of Mustangs, although not everythingfinalized.
#15
Melting Slicks
"In GT Le Mans, three of the five models are new, requiring first-time BoP specs for BMW's twin-turbo V8 M6, Ferrari's twin-turbo V8 488, and Ford's twin-turbo V6 GT (LEFT). Only Corvette's C7.R and Porsche's 911 RSR carry over from 2015."
#16
Le Mans Master
hum...always thought it was a 6. I was also under the impression Porsche got a new look to.
#18
Le Mans Master
The goal of these series is to be silhouette cars...very much like their factory counterparts...it's a win on sunday, sell on monday model. Putting in radically modified stuff strays from that intent, and as Doug put it...is a slippery slope to start treading on. We don't want SuperGT cars with these massive aero widebodies...and that was the Z4. Looked cool, but way too much.
#19
Le Mans Master
That Z4 was pretty off for a silhouette car...stretched, widened and a big aero body...not exactly rule conforming. From a silhouette racing perspective, BMW was operating on waivers from other manufacturers to maintain involvement, solely based upon the promise that a true GT platform was in development. I spoke to Doug Fehan about the BMW Z4's, and while they wanted BMW's involvement, they didn't expect the huge aero body thing that came out. They submitted protests about it later.
The goal of these series is to be silhouette cars...very much like their factory counterparts...it's a win on sunday, sell on monday model. Putting in radically modified stuff strays from that intent, and as Doug put it...is a slippery slope to start treading on. We don't want SuperGT cars with these massive aero widebodies...and that was the Z4. Looked cool, but way too much.
The goal of these series is to be silhouette cars...very much like their factory counterparts...it's a win on sunday, sell on monday model. Putting in radically modified stuff strays from that intent, and as Doug put it...is a slippery slope to start treading on. We don't want SuperGT cars with these massive aero widebodies...and that was the Z4. Looked cool, but way too much.
that's funny considering the c7r is a foot wider than a factory z06
I wish GT would get as radical as possible with massive HP. Sure miss GT1 days
Last edited by VGLNTE1; 12-29-2015 at 02:18 PM.
#20
Drifting
No, that car is staying overseas. That situation has to do with contracts and agreements. Callaway can play with Corvettes over there, Pratt and Miller over here. I'm sure Lou Gigliotti can tell you all about it. I suppose with GT3 being used in Weathertech championship, maybe the presence of the car is possible now. Not sure what politics are involved there.