Milodon has a road race LS oil pan now
11-06-2009, 01:08 PM
#1
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Milodon has a road race LS oil pan now
11-25-2009, 12:11 AM
#7
Burning Brakes
Batwing vs Milodon pan?
I have only heard of the "Batwing". Is a batwing similar to this
Milodon oil pan. What is the consensus out there for those that want to prevent oil starvation with out going to a dry sump; has this design helped?
11-25-2009, 09:05 AM
#8
Melting Slicks
Don't waste your money on a wet sump pan for the LS3...if you plan on tracking the car with racing tires. It might help the oil pressure issue a little, but you'll still have the oil puking and extreme oil temps. There's a reason why the new Grand Sport LS3 has a dry sump on it! We (GM and the T1 racers) could not get a reasonable wet sump solution to work.
11-26-2009, 12:59 PM
#10
Burning Brakes
Don't waste your money on a wet sump pan for the LS3...if you plan on tracking the car with racing tires. It might help the oil pressure issue a little, but you'll still have the oil puking and extreme oil temps. There's a reason why the new Grand Sport LS3 has a dry sump on it! We (GM and the T1 racers) could not get a reasonable wet sump solution to work.
Thanks for your advice.
Regarding the extreme temps, I have lowered these a lot by installing a Z06 heat exchanger. However, "oil puking" --- nothing has barfed on me yet but maybe I don't know what to look for... If it is airation of the oil in the pan you are speaking of, maybe this wet sump pan might help??
11-27-2009, 09:53 AM
#12
Melting Slicks
If you haven't seen this yet, you will...just drive harder. These are just some of the reasons why GM decided to scrap the Z51 option and go with the Grand Sport...stock with a dry sump!
11-27-2009, 10:56 PM
#13
Burning Brakes
Puking......
The puking comes from oil staying in the pass side heads and going thru the PCV valve into the intake...normally under braking. The oil gets into the intake so your air/fuel mixture is now air/fuel/dirty oil...not good for power or reliability. What doesn't get ingested, flows down the intake to the air filter...and ruins it.
If you haven't seen this yet, you will...just drive harder. These are just some of the reasons why GM decided to scrap the Z51 option and go with the Grand Sport...stock with a dry sump!
If you haven't seen this yet, you will...just drive harder. These are just some of the reasons why GM decided to scrap the Z51 option and go with the Grand Sport...stock with a dry sump!
Thanks for the clarification on puking.. I'll keep my eyes open for this.. Now, you can probably tell by my next question that I'm trying to do all I can not to spend the $ on a dry sump, but would the installation of an oil catch can help here? So far I have not put one of these on my engine and have seen where these are availble??
11-27-2009, 11:07 PM
#14
Some things I've done on my ls1 to improve things are pushroods with smaller than stock oil holes. Mine are .040". I've ported and smoothed out all the oil drainage areas in my heads. Probably the most important thing I did was replace the restrictive factory lifter cups with link bar lifters. They open things up quite a bit. I will hopefully have this track tested next week if it doesn't rain.
Personally I don't think an extra quart of oil is a good thing. The corvette pans are shallow and the higher the level of oil in the pan the greater the chance of the crank slinging it up the passenger side of the motor in addition to adding air to the oil. In my opinion the crank slinging oil is why it is commonly the left hand turns that hold oil up in the head on that side. A proper crank scraper would go a long way in helping the issue.
A proper multi-stage dry sump is the ultimate, but a well done one would include some or all of the above mentioned items depending on motor.
Personally I don't think an extra quart of oil is a good thing. The corvette pans are shallow and the higher the level of oil in the pan the greater the chance of the crank slinging it up the passenger side of the motor in addition to adding air to the oil. In my opinion the crank slinging oil is why it is commonly the left hand turns that hold oil up in the head on that side. A proper crank scraper would go a long way in helping the issue.
A proper multi-stage dry sump is the ultimate, but a well done one would include some or all of the above mentioned items depending on motor.
11-28-2009, 08:11 PM
#15
Melting Slicks
Thanks for the clarification on puking.. I'll keep my eyes open for this.. Now, you can probably tell by my next question that I'm trying to do all I can not to spend the $ on a dry sump, but would the installation of an oil catch can help here? So far I have not put one of these on my engine and have seen where these are availble??
11-09-2011, 06:54 AM
#16
Burning Brakes
Don't waste your money on a wet sump pan for the LS3...if you plan on tracking the car with racing tires. It might help the oil pressure issue a little, but you'll still have the oil puking and extreme oil temps. There's a reason why the new Grand Sport LS3 has a dry sump on it! We (GM and the T1 racers) could not get a reasonable wet sump solution to work.
Do you think a good pan AND a Accusump would take care of the issues?
Thanks,
Ty
11-09-2011, 07:51 AM
#17
Burning Brakes
