This is rather subjective due to tracks and driving style but here is some info for my setup.
Power wise my car it is stock. I run street tires (Falken RT-615's) and have the StopTech ST60 fronts and ST40 rears. Both front and rear have 14" rotors. I went to StopTech's due to spreading the stock calipers which gave a low pedal which would not pump up and also gave a lot of pad taper. On track, I use CarboTech XP10's on the front and XP8's on the rear. The front pads are just about shot after 9 days of tracking. That includes 6 days at Grattan Raceway and 3 days at Gingerman Raceway. I haven't pulled the pads after this last event but previous to that, there was minimal taper.
Now, I say that the front pads are just about shot but there definately still meat on them. If you're inclined to run them all the way to the backing plates, they could probably do another couple of days.
I do have DRM front cooling ducts and LGM spindle ducts. The front rotors do have heat checks after the 9 days of tracking but are definately still good.
Overall, I have been very happy with the StopTech setup and the CarboTech pads. No fade issues. I do run Motul brake fluid and bleed before every event.
This is rather subjective due to tracks and driving style but here is some info for my setup.
Power wise my car it is stock. I run street tires (Falken RT-615's) and have the StopTech ST60 fronts and ST40 rears. Both front and rear have 14" rotors. I went to StopTech's due to spreading the stock calipers which gave a low pedal which would not pump up and also gave a lot of pad taper. On track, I use CarboTech XP10's on the front and XP8's on the rear. The front pads are just about shot after 9 days of tracking. That includes 6 days at Grattan Raceway and 3 days at Gingerman Raceway. I haven't pulled the pads after this last event but previous to that, there was minimal taper.
Now, I say that the front pads are just about shot but there definately still meat on them. If you're inclined to run them all the way to the backing plates, they could probably do another couple of days.
I do have DRM front cooling ducts and LGM spindle ducts. The front rotors do have heat checks after the 9 days of tracking but are definately still good.
Overall, I have been very happy with the StopTech setup and the CarboTech pads. No fade issues. I do run Motul brake fluid and bleed before every event.
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Matt, the Stop Tech's are great, I have about 10 track days on my pads and can probably get another day, maybe two. Since we generally run the same tracks with about the same weight, it should be comparable. The additional expense on purchase gets weighed out over time, and the stopping power is incredible.
Go with them, even if your playing with higher HP cars on the track, I can almost always make the distance lost on the brakes.
Thanks for the input guys. Whether I run the paddlets or the single pad, I am now getting about 4 events (single days) out of the fronts. That is trying to be somewhat conservative on my braking points to make them last longer. At $300 per set, I am spending more than double on what you would spend with Stoptechs's (ST60 pads are approx $200). So in just 8 events, I would save around $400. In 2 years, they have paid for themselves...man I just have to pull the darn trigger.
Thanks for the input guys. Whether I run the paddlets or the single pad, I am now getting about 4 events (single days) out of the fronts. That is trying to be somewhat conservative on my braking points to make them last longer. At $300 per set, I am spending more than double on what you would spend with Stoptechs's (ST60 pads are approx $200). So in just 8 events, I would save around $400. In 2 years, they have paid for themselves...man I just have to pull the darn trigger.
Do you find any advantage of the single piece pad over the paddlets?
I think the single pad lasts a little longer in general, I have little to no pad taper, but I could not tell a big difference in performance if any.
The advantage for me is ease of installation. The single pad cuts down the install time significantly as you are not bumbling with 6 little paddlets falling all over the place. I will never buy a paddlet again!!!
I think the single pad lasts a little longer in general, I have little to no pad taper, but I could not tell a big difference in performance if any.
The advantage for me is ease of installation. The single pad cuts down the install time significantly as you are not bumbling with 6 little paddlets falling all over the place. I will never buy a paddlet again!!!
I think the single pad lasts a little longer in general, I have little to no pad taper, but I could not tell a big difference in performance if any.
The advantage for me is ease of installation. The single pad cuts down the install time significantly as you are not bumbling with 6 little paddlets falling all over the place. I will never buy a paddlet again!!!
The other thing you have to think about is that the factory caliper will only allow for a 15mm thick pad. Going to the one piece design does give you a little more surface area but it does not increase thickness.
StopTech's ST60 caliper allows for a 20mm thick pad, so you are gaining 5mm of pad material on each side which is a good size increase of about 30% total.
Comparatively speaking with Cobalt pads and the same compound the StopTech pads are cheaper than OE.
Matt, I'll get you a set boxed up and ready to go, just hit me up when your ready!
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Thanks for the input guys. Whether I run the paddlets or the single pad, I am now getting about 4 events (single days) out of the fronts. That is trying to be somewhat conservative on my braking points to make them last longer. At $300 per set, I am spending more than double on what you would spend with Stoptechs's (ST60 pads are approx $200). So in just 8 events, I would save around $400. In 2 years, they have paid for themselves...man I just have to pull the darn trigger.
In 2 years they pay for themselves? I must be missing something here. What pays for itself? That ST60/ST40 kit (calipers,brackets,rotors) cost you what $5k? You'll need to use an awful lot of pads to ever break even on costs. Also with a BBK like that don't you need a new master cylinder?
Also with a BBK like that don't you need a new master cylinder?
Not with StopTech you don't. These were all designed around the factory ABS and master cylinder calibrations.
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2006 Z51 M6 coupe. LG Pro Equipped **SOLD**
LG Motorsports
DIRECT DEALERS FOR:
BRAKES: PFC, BREMBO, STOPTECH, GSTOP, WILWOOD
WHEELS: FORGELINE, LG, Forza Forged, HRE
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In 2 years they pay for themselves? I must be missing something here. What pays for itself? That ST60/ST40 kit (calipers,brackets,rotors) cost you what $5k? You'll need to use an awful lot of pads to ever break even on costs. Also with a BBK like that don't you need a new master cylinder?
I picked up a ST40/ST40 kit for $3300 shipped from a forum vendor. New. Stoptech told me the only advantage to the ST60 caliper was a bit longer pad life. They said there wouldn't be any performance difference and that if I drove two cars back to back I wouldn't know the difference. The ST40 pads are quite a bit cheaper than the ST60 pads. You don't need a new master cylinder to run a properly designed BBK.
In 2 years they pay for themselves? I must be missing something here. What pays for itself? That ST60/ST40 kit (calipers,brackets,rotors) cost you what $5k? You'll need to use an awful lot of pads to ever break even on costs. Also with a BBK like that don't you need a new master cylinder?
I am talking fronts only. If the pads last twice as long and cost $100 less than the Stoptechs, and you do about 8-10 events a year. You will pay for the updgrade in the form of savings on the pads. Now I just need to sell some more parts I have laying around the garage to help me pay for these things.
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