Just wanted to know what your thoughts were on these two. I've recently been able to sample both on a soundboard at a local retailer. Except the Dynaudio was the the older 240GT rather than the 242.
Of the two speaker sets, which do you think is better? and why? I know this is a very subjective question, and there is no absolute correct answer, but I just want to get some opinions on this.
I thought the Focals sounded great, except that the tweeters were very slightly on the too harsh/tinny side. I suppose that can be fixed with adjusting the tweeters on the stock crossover.
The Dynaudio's sounded great too. They had a smoother sound to them, and the tweeters did not have any harshness or tinniness to them.
The shop also had some Hybrid Audio speakers as well. I listened to them briefly, but not as much as I had wanted to. How do those other two speakers compare to the Legatia L61-2x component set?
I clicked the Dyns because even though I love Focal without a LOT of time, effort and probably fibreglass work placing the Dyn tweeter should be a lot easier than the Focal. The Focals tioxid tweets and very forward sound tend to get exaggerated in the tight cabin of the C6. I moved from a set of 165KF's with the TN47 (which is 5mm smaller than the TN52 that ships with the K2P's) to a custom set with a Vifa D26NC55 "textile" tweet and the difference is more than marked. I still had to really pull the tweet level down using the DSP in my Zapco amp due to cabin reflection, but it was much easier to do and produced a better result than with the Focals.
That said, I put the 165KF's in my truck with the tweet mounted down by the midbass in the door panels and in that environment they sound great. So I still like Focals, but for the C6 application I gotta give the Dyns the nod.
The Dyn tweeter is much, much easier to get pleasant sound out of than the Focal Tweeter. However, the dyn tweeter is best (nearly) on axis. otherwise you lose some serious top end. If you just throw them in the doors, you will be hearing roughly 30% of their ability. I wasn't overly impressed with mine until I carefully, carefully found the right position and angle.
Focals are much more efficient. The dyn tweeter is efficient enough, but that midrange needs a lot of power. I'm running 350w+ to my midranges, and 100w to my tweeter. The problem is if you run serious power through the Dyn xover, everything starts sounding really harsh.
Also, in passive mode - The focal passives arent terrible. I hate the dyn passives with a passion.
My current combination is the Dyn MD102 tweeter + Dyn MW172 8" (really 7.5") midrange. If you can swing active, I'd go with this combo. Crossover at 50hz @ 24, 2.5khz @ 24, 2.5khz @ 24.
I put the Dynaudio System 362 in a 2008 Z06 recently (replacing the CDT gold setup), and I love the smooth sound. They are less efficient than the Focals (I am an authorized dealer all 3 lines mentioned), but if you run a good, strong clean amp to them, they will come alive in ways the Focals cannot, unless you buy the Utopias.
I heard the Dynaudio system 362 today as well with the 9" midbass driver, and WOW!!! Absolutely amazing!!!
I am leaning towards the dyns right now, but I'm concerned that my amp will not be sufficient in power. I'm using an older Xtant 604x, which is rated at 4x75, where 2 of the channels will be used to power my sub.
A friend had told me that I should go take a look at the Pioneer Premier TS-c720PRS components as well. What are your guys' thoughts on this speaker?
Being a Focal dealer I should be biased towards them. But I run the PRS's in my competition car. The tweeters are not the same as in their lower models although they cosmetically look the same. The xovers I can't comment on as I am running active. The midrange I can agree on. I am running against cars that run the Focal Utopia Be systems and we are very much comparable.
btw, to the OP, dont confuse the PRS with the new lookalike pioneer premier speakers. The tssomethingorothers. I bought a pair of those for my daily driver from the PRS's reputation and these use the same "technology." They are not good speakers without a metric ton of tuning.
Yeah, upon further reading of the PRS, it seems that the stock crossovers are pretty terrible. I don't plan on going active or building my own crossovers, so that set might not be so good for me.
...which leads me back to the focals? Would my amp be sufficient in powering the 165K2Ps?
Yeah, upon further reading of the PRS, it seems that the stock crossovers are pretty terrible. I don't plan on going active or building my own crossovers, so that set might not be so good for me.
...which leads me back to the focals? Would my amp be sufficient in powering the 165K2Ps?
I ran my 165KF's on a newer Xtant x604 that was 75w into 4 and it drove them nicely. Won't blow your doors off with output but it will drive the speakers nicely.
Dynaudio 242 or Focal 165 K2P?
