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Old 10-18-2007, 10:48 PM   #1
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OK I'm getting ready to do a new systme in my vert. I'm going with a Kenwood DNX 7100 H/U and now I'm tring to decide what speakers for the doors and mid panel. I plan to spend between 400-500 on just these speakers. I'm going to be powering these with an Infinity 5 Ch Amp. Already have the sub's picked out.

Any suggestions on what speakers would fit the bill. I like classic rock to todays music.
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What do you want the speakers to sound like?
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What's the model of the amp? I'll assume that with a 5 ch ou're going to run 4 channel full range and a sub. Am I correct?
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What do you want the speakers to sound like?

Want them to sound as good as what I can afford. I did infinity speakers in my wife's C5 and they sound pretty good. Looking for other options.
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What's the model of the amp? I'll assume that with a 5 ch ou're going to run 4 channel full range and a sub. Am I correct?
Yes you are correct.... 4 channels for the main speakers and one channel for the sub's. The amp is a Infinity Reference 5350A.
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okay we're looking at 50x4 for the speakers and depending on the sub setup 150 @ 4 ohms 300 @ at 2ohms.

However, most of the infinity speakers I've seen have a 2 ohm load meaning you'll get 60 watts from the amp.

For speakers. 60 watts should be enough to drive a set of components in the front and coax in the back.


For comps:
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...ures_and_specs
best price: ~$120 shipped ebay
The kappa series has a MMD tweeter with will have brighter (some say harsher) highs.

http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...ures_and_specs
Best price: $104 shipped ebay

You may also want to look into the infinity "perfect" series. Their prices are around 160-200 on ebay. The only catch is that they'll be severely underpowered with your amp.

For Rears:
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...Infinity&tp=95
Best price: $67 shipped ebay

http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...Infinity&tp=95
Best PRice: $60 shipped ebay
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Want them to sound as good as what I can afford. I did infinity speakers in my wife's C5 and they sound pretty good. Looking for other options.

Hmn... Buying speakers is like going out to dinner. You can't order "Good" on a menu, you know? You might end up with the Lobster, and have a shellfish allergy.

What I'm saying is - For $400, you can find a variety of speakers that have very different characteristics. I would tell you that MBQuartz, Diamond, sound terrible, and that Focal Polyglass sounds great. But you'll find someone that feels the opposite way.

Considering you like Infinity I would say your preference leans to bright sibilant speakers with thin midrange and minimal midbass.

Does that sound right?

To define my terms -

Bright / Sibilant would over exaggerate the higher frequencies, add a bite to everything if you will. Sibilance will pronounce sizzling sounds so much more. Personally, I get tired fast of this kind of system.

Thin midrange - Where a voice might sound full and robust, it will sound thinner, and less powerful.

Minimal midbass - Weak in the 80-250hz area.



Also, I would spend the majority of money on front speakers, then buy some inexpensive alpine coaxials for the rear.

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If you want the best available, forget Infinity, MBQ and Polk. Focal and Dynaudio are about as good as things get out of a box. You can even do considerably better with hand-picked drivers.

Once you hear a very good set of speakers, you'll understand what Kale means. Also, while I always say the $ spent on a set of components isn't really relevant, I will say that you can't get anything any good for under $200 MSRP.
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Thanks Guys.... I do happen to have a set of Alpine speakers that I purchased that I can use for the rear. That would allow me to use all of my allocated monies for the front components.

What about Polk Component Speakers for the Front? From what I was reading last night they seem to get really great reviews.
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well, for speakers of that caliber, they are very easy to find in local chain stores like Best Buy so you can go have a listen.
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Re-read the post above yours.
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OK Polk is a no-no...

I have seen a lot of reference of Focal Speakers. How are they?
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They're among the best as long as you take care during installation. When you start messing with the upper tier of loudspeakers in a car, small changes in mounting placement and angle can make noticible differences in sound quality, almost all varying grades of good. I always recommend Focal Polyglass components for people who want very good sound right away with little fuss.
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They're among the best as long as you take care during installation. When you start messing with the upper tier of loudspeakers in a car, small changes in mounting placement and angle can make noticible differences in sound quality, almost all varying grades of good. I always recommend Focal Polyglass components for people who want very good sound right away with little fuss.
100%.

I was not a fan of my dyn tweeters until I got them in my a-pillars at a particular angle... They blew in the door, and they sucked hard in a generic pillar location.

focal tweeters are even harder to aim, but extremely rewarding when done right.
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100%.

I was not a fan of my dyn tweeters until I got them in my a-pillars at a particular angle... They blew in the door, and they sucked hard in a generic pillar location.

focal tweeters are even harder to aim, but extremely rewarding when done right.
Focal tweeters are A-pillar friendly. Anywhere else will yield questionable staging.
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Focal tweeters are A-pillar friendly. Anywhere else will yield questionable staging.
Yes, but the newest tweeters will maintain good response in the factory locations, even if you lose stage depth/width/height. Sometimes that's enough. The TN52 model isn't anywhere near as sensitive to placement as the smaller TN45 was.
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