Whats the latest and greatest for audio speakers - behind the seats?

webdzynes · 06-09-2007, 12:03 PM

I have a full Dynaudio system in the doors powered all by JL Audio. I was thinking I'd put a pair of MB Quart QSD 21 coax in the spaces behind the seats. What are your other high end suggestions (for this area only) that will match up well with the Dyn's?

bryanw2006 · 06-09-2007, 01:46 PM

Hey IMO I wouldnt even waste your money on rear stage. If you have a nice DYN system for example the ESO stars and maye an extra set of tweeters. just unplug those rear speakers they are size 5 1-2 and keep them in the stock places for when you sell your car you can plug those speakers back in. but just go with a really high end 2 way front stage components and use a nice amp for your tweets Id go active also instead of passive you will avoid your silly cross overs. that let u cut the signal of your amps in HALF. you should have the JL audio 300.2 slash amp JUSt on your component drivers. Then have you an seperate amp for some tweeters like 150 watt amp x2 and put 75 into your tweets. you can either go with custom fiberglass kick panels and avoid the dead pedal onthe drivers side if you have a automatic. of if your running a mn6 you can put the drivers in the doors and then above install your tweeter in the pods above or however you get them to make the door panel personally I think the tweeter should be a little higher up then the woofer for sound to be best well thanx anyone that read this long run on paragraph hope it helped u a little Cya

Abomination · 06-09-2007, 02:10 PM

Rear stage is barely, if at all needed in a great sounding stereo. If you do get it you don't want coaxial you want a midrange only, having tweeters behind you and that close to your ear will throw off the imaging. Even then you want very little volume coming from them.

In a music only audio system rear only serves to give you the feel of a concert where the volume reflects off the rear walls. A lot of the best SQ cars in the world have run without rear stages.

bryanw2006 · 06-09-2007, 02:35 PM

of course Front stage is all that matters! and dynmnat of course lets not leave that out. it plays a big role in the sound deading.

fej · 06-09-2007, 03:08 PM

Friends don't let friends have rear fill.

Coaxials are only going to pull your soundstage rearward, degrade its sound quality, and be a waste of money.

If you want to make positive changes get yourself a sub, or more power for your front components, don't waste the money on coaxials for the rear, especially in a small car like the vette.

G'luck
Fej

Subw00er · 06-09-2007, 04:01 PM

I use Dyn as well. I had them fore and aft but I ended up removing the rear speakers because their placement is just really bad. I even went through the trouble of sealing the rear area of the speaker and aiming them with rings. I think the main problem is that the speaker is fairly separated from the panel and grill, so it gets a hollow wonky sound. They are also much to close to your head so its impossible to get any imaging potential out of them. The time delay feature in the deck did help, but it was just never good.

I just use the fronts now powered by xtant monoblocks. I previously used JL to power my fronts and still use a JL 1000.1 to power the sub, but I was never happy with the JL's on the dynaudio's - too bright and tight sounding. I would strongly suggest changing amplification. Look at these:
http://www.xtant.com/html/products/xtant1.1i.cfm

I know it only says 100watts, but it is a high current class D amp and delivers more than enough power for the Dynaudios, so its hard to compare to normal a/b amps. If you know Dynaudio, you know they need a lot of power.

Its probably not what you want to hear, but if you really need to use rears, I would nix the stock placement and build some sort of pod in the far rear of the car - maybe integrate them into the cubbie holes somehow - or maybe you can buy premade boxes and bolt them in place using the rear cargo net bolts.

I bought mbquart for a long time before finding dynaudio. I also owned Diamond Audio and in fact use a DA sub and it matches well with the soft Dynaudios. I would stay away from the tinny, overpriced mbquarts and look for a diamond audio dealer. Diamonds (HEX) mid to high end levels would mate very well. But I have ot ask, why not use Dynaudio back there and then you know they'll match?

Do you have a sub yet? Stay away from Dynaudio's car audio subs, they are really slow, weak and require a lot of airspace, blah! MB quart 12" subs arent bad actually...

Good luck, let us know what you decide to do.