thanks for the tips. I purchased some of the dynamat squares, but the tech told me the same thing. Don't expect these to work well, because fiberglass doesn't rattle. I took the door panel off, and it still had the noise, so I was able to eliminate that. I stuck my hand inside the door, and have touched as much as I can, but can't locate the rattle. The speaker I removed from the box, and naturally the rattle stopped, so the speaker is fine. It seems that would leave the speaker box, but I have pushed and pulled on that and the rattle is still there. Like you guys say, I guess it's a process of elimination and a true PITA to locate. Thanks again!!