Corvette Forum  


Go Back   Corvette Forum > General Corvette Topics > Audio/Electronics
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Register Vendors Buy a Vette Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ PhotosGarage

Audio/Electronics Stereo System Installation Info, Amplifiers, Subwoofers, Radar Detectors, Police Scanners, and CB Radios for the Corvette

Corvette Store
 
 
C6 Parts & Accessories
C5 Parts & Accessories
Wheels & Tires
Sponsored Ads
 
 
Vendor Directory
 
Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-23-2005, 05:31 AM   #1
74-Roadster
CF Senior Member
St. Jude Donor '06
Father & Son St. Jude Donor '09

 
74-Roadster's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2000
Location: Fort Worth TX
Default I really wanted to get one, 6 channel amp . . .

I'm replacing the stereo in my C5, 6-1/2" comp up front, 5-14" coax in back and two 10" subs.

I really wanted one 6 channel amp to take care of everything and All I've found that may work is an audiobahn unit. Audiobahn A5100T Multi-Channel Amplifier 2 X 100 FRONT 2 X 75 REAR 1X 75 CENTER OR MIDBASS + 1 X 300 HC How good is Audiobahn and do ya'll have some other ideas?

Since my car is a vert, I didn't want to mount 2 or even 3 amps but may have to, huh?.

Keep in mind, I can build any time of custom enclosure I need, but the car's limited storage must remain functional.

Thanks, Glenn
__________________


2001 Vert, One-off custom flares and rockers w/ 345's & iForged Aeros 18x10 & 19x12.5, Custom
painted interior, Shaved emblems, Painted lights, Big brakes, 228/228 cam, Z06 heads, LG LT's 411RWHP

PLANS: One-piece rear clip, shaved handles, gas door & antenna, major stereo fab/install, mini
front flares, custom nose and a silver-orange two-tone

1974 Vert - Stay tuned!! We can customize her, we have the technology. . .
74-Roadster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2005, 10:53 AM   #2
EatRice
CF Senior Member
Support Corvetteforum!
 
EatRice's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2003
Location: Wesley Chapel Fl
Send a message via MSN to EatRice
Default

Glenn...Audiobahn stuff is not bad but it is designed for the bling bling factor over being a serious piece of audio equipment. Audiobahn is also priced right for what it is. In today's market there is alot of good product it really comes down to what you are willing to spend. Personally I would check out the line of DEI amps. I replaced a JL 500/5 with a DEI 5 channel and was throughly pleased with the performance. I was less than the JL and outperformed it.

http://www.directed.com/audio/amps/default.asp#multi
EatRice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2005, 11:32 AM   #3
JCAIRE2
CF Senior Member
 
JCAIRE2's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2002
Location: High Plains Drifter Fayetteville, AR
Default

If it were my car this is what I would do. Keep the components in the front, and lose the coaxials in the rear. With 2 10" subs back there, they are going to drown out all of the fill from the rear speakers, so you might as well not waste money and time on them.

Without the two rear speakers, you can run a 4 channel amp with one channel for each front component, then bridge the two remaining channels and wire the subs in paralell. Simple, effective and you'll get more power out of the amp by bridging the sub channels. It's much easier and cheaper to find a high quality 4 channel 2ohm stable amp than it will be to find a 6 channel amp.
JCAIRE2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2005, 12:36 PM   #4
74-Roadster
CF Senior Member
St. Jude Donor '06
Father & Son St. Jude Donor '09

 
74-Roadster's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2000
Location: Fort Worth TX
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EatRice
Glenn...Audiobahn stuff is not bad but it is designed for the bling bling factor over being a serious piece of audio equipment. Audiobahn is also priced right for what it is. In today's market there is alot of good product it really comes down to what you are willing to spend. Personally I would check out the line of DEI amps. I replaced a JL 500/5 with a DEI 5 channel and was throughly pleased with the performance. I was less than the JL and outperformed it.

http://www.directed.com/audio/amps/default.asp#multi

Thanks for the link Randy. I'll take a look. I want clean sound, nothing special. 75-100w/channel up front and less in back with at least 200w/channel to the subs.

I just realized this morning that I have the sound partition in my car. How will that effect the subs if they are behind the partition?
__________________


2001 Vert, One-off custom flares and rockers w/ 345's & iForged Aeros 18x10 & 19x12.5, Custom
painted interior, Shaved emblems, Painted lights, Big brakes, 228/228 cam, Z06 heads, LG LT's 411RWHP

PLANS: One-piece rear clip, shaved handles, gas door & antenna, major stereo fab/install, mini
front flares, custom nose and a silver-orange two-tone

1974 Vert - Stay tuned!! We can customize her, we have the technology. . .
74-Roadster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2005, 12:58 PM   #5
74-Roadster
CF Senior Member
St. Jude Donor '06
Father & Son St. Jude Donor '09

 
74-Roadster's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2000
Location: Fort Worth TX
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JCAIRE2
If it were my car this is what I would do. Keep the components in the front, and lose the coaxials in the rear. With 2 10" subs back there, they are going to drown out all of the fill from the rear speakers, so you might as well not waste money and time on them.

Without the two rear speakers, you can run a 4 channel amp with one channel for each front component, then bridge the two remaining channels and wire the subs in paralell. Simple, effective and you'll get more power out of the amp by bridging the sub channels. It's much easier and cheaper to find a high quality 4 channel 2ohm stable amp than it will be to find a 6 channel amp.
That's a great idea but I already have the 5-1/4" coax speakers and just can't imagine not using them. Rear fill is a good thing in a vert

I really want the front to back fade to work so I'll need a 4 channel amp for the 4 speakers and if I don't find a 5 or 6 channel amp that'll work, I'll need another amp for the subs.
74-Roadster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2005, 01:06 PM   #6
JCAIRE2
CF Senior Member
 
JCAIRE2's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2002
Location: High Plains Drifter Fayetteville, AR
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 74-Roadster
That's a great idea but I already have the 5-1/4" coax speakers and just can't imagine not using them. Rear fill is a good thing in a vert

I really want the front to back fade to work so I'll need a 4 channel amp for the 4 speakers and if I don't find a 5 or 6 channel amp that'll work, I'll need another amp for the subs.
That would be your best bet if you're totally sold on rear fill. The partition won't effect the subs much at all, the bass will come right through it. I would run two seperate amps in this install. A 4 channel for the mids/highs and a mono amp for the subs in paralell. Should take up about the same amount of room that a giant 6 channel amp would.
JCAIRE2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2005, 04:26 PM   #7
74-Roadster
CF Senior Member
St. Jude Donor '06
Father & Son St. Jude Donor '09

 
74-Roadster's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2000
Location: Fort Worth TX
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JCAIRE2
That would be your best bet if you're totally sold on rear fill. The partition won't effect the subs much at all, the bass will come right through it. I would run two seperate amps in this install. A 4 channel for the mids/highs and a mono amp for the subs in paralell. Should take up about the same amount of room that a giant 6 channel amp would.
I'm arriving at the same conclusion! Thanks for the help and confirmation that the subs can sit in the trunk area without any problem.

Now, where and how do I mount the amp(s)?
__________________


2001 Vert, One-off custom flares and rockers w/ 345's & iForged Aeros 18x10 & 19x12.5, Custom
painted interior, Shaved emblems, Painted lights, Big brakes, 228/228 cam, Z06 heads, LG LT's 411RWHP

PLANS: One-piece rear clip, shaved handles, gas door & antenna, major stereo fab/install, mini
front flares, custom nose and a silver-orange two-tone

1974 Vert - Stay tuned!! We can customize her, we have the technology. . .
74-Roadster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2005, 06:15 PM   #8
srsjuju
CF Senior Member
 
srsjuju's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2003
Location: Wood Dale Il.
Default

I mounted my 2 amps and eq controller in a custom made box under where my top closes. It fits awesome and I did not loose any space as it is useless anyways
I have an 01 Vert.
__________________

above are my brothers,mine and my dads vettes

01 Mil Yellow Vert M6,
Mods,
Donaldson Blackwing,
Borla XR-1,
Blackouts,
Lloyd Mats,
Some small Interior Color Mods,
Alpine and Fosgate up graded sound system
Pace car Strobe lights and Fire in the doors

srsjuju is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2005, 06:19 PM   #9
leolufse
CF Senior Member
 
leolufse's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2002
Location: Atlanta GA
Send a message via AIM to leolufse
Default

I think Randy told me once that DEI/Directed and PPI are the same company? Or am I thinking of something else? I can personally speak for PPI. I've got a 4125, 4x250@2ohms. I'm running my whole system from it. The advantage to a multi channel amp is less wiring and a more simple (perhaps cleaner) install. The disadvantage is that a high power, multi chanel amp is very large. My PPI is over 26" long. By going with 2 amps, and one of them being a mono sub amp which are usually pretty small, you might actually have an easier time mounting/hiding them. Also, unless you have a dead HU, don't be afraid to use its internal power for your less important speakers. I'm not running true surround, but during dvd movie watching, I fade in my rear speakers which are run from the HU. The components are run from my front 2 channels of the PPI and each of the 2 subs runs from the rear two channels.

In a vert, you may want to send more juice to the rear speakers to overome the road/wind noise. Where are you planning on mounting the center channel? ... and don't say "in the center"
leolufse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2005, 06:44 PM   #10
74-Roadster
CF Senior Member
St. Jude Donor '06
Father & Son St. Jude Donor '09

 
74-Roadster's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2000
Location: Fort Worth TX
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by leolufse
I think Randy told me once that DEI/Directed and PPI are the same company? Or am I thinking of something else? I can personally speak for PPI. I've got a 4125, 4x250@2ohms. I'm running my whole system from it. The advantage to a multi channel amp is less wiring and a more simple (perhaps cleaner) install. The disadvantage is that a high power, multi chanel amp is very large. My PPI is over 26" long. By going with 2 amps, and one of them being a mono sub amp which are usually pretty small, you might actually have an easier time mounting/hiding them. Also, unless you have a dead HU, don't be afraid to use its internal power for your less important speakers. I'm not running true surround, but during dvd movie watching, I fade in my rear speakers which are run from the HU. The components are run from my front 2 channels of the PPI and each of the 2 subs runs from the rear two channels.

In a vert, you may want to send more juice to the rear speakers to overome the road/wind noise. Where are you planning on mounting the center channel? ... and don't say "in the center"
Good comments, thanks!

As for the center channel, I'm not planning on DVD etc. what are other benefits of a center channel? That's one area I'm wayyyyyy behind. And I have noooo idea where I'd mount one, let alone what speaker to buy or use for a center channel.

Thanks for throwing me a curve ball!
74-Roadster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2005, 06:46 PM   #11
74-Roadster
CF Senior Member
St. Jude Donor '06
Father & Son St. Jude Donor '09

 
74-Roadster's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2000
Location: Fort Worth TX
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by srsjuju
I mounted my 2 amps and eq controller in a custom made box under where my top closes. It fits awesome and I did not loose any space as it is useless anyways
I have an 01 Vert.
I like that idea. Is your box open for air/cooling? Can you post or e:mail me some pics?

boles@charter.net

Nice C3 too!
74-Roadster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2005, 06:46 PM
 
Go Back   Corvette Forum > General Corvette Topics > Audio/Electronics
Reload this Page I really wanted to get one, 6 channel amp . . .
 
 
 
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Click for Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
C5 Bose upgrade wiring notes 99HT Audio/Electronics 11 10-08-2011 05:45 PM
Adding a sub TJ VETT Audio/Electronics 13 02-25-2005 01:49 PM
C5 Bose Upgrade Info 99HT Audio/Electronics 18 08-16-2004 04:02 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:49 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.1 PL1
Emails & Password Backup