Standard vs Z51 wheels, breaks, just in case you didnt know
#1
Standard vs Z51 wheels, breaks, just in case you didnt know
Just in case you didn't know the differences between standard and Z51.
Standard:
18" Front
19" Rear
Fitted with road tires
Cast Aluminum
35mm shocks
Z51:
19" Front
20" Rear
Fitted with track tires
Slotted Rotors, bigger front brakes
Forged Aluminum, strong and lighter wheels
45mm shocks
The forged aluminum wheels and bigger slotted rotors alone would make the Z51 package a good deal. Not to mention other goodies. HOwever, it does add some weight.
Standard:
18" Front
19" Rear
Fitted with road tires
Cast Aluminum
35mm shocks
Z51:
19" Front
20" Rear
Fitted with track tires
Slotted Rotors, bigger front brakes
Forged Aluminum, strong and lighter wheels
45mm shocks
The forged aluminum wheels and bigger slotted rotors alone would make the Z51 package a good deal. Not to mention other goodies. HOwever, it does add some weight.
#3
Safety Car
I agree it's crazy that they use the same name for both tires
Reading the slides from the Bash it's easy to see why the OP refers to the "road" tire and the "track" tire
The 18"/19" Pilot Super Sport ZP:
- 1G cornering capability
- Lower energy consumption (unique low RR compounds)
- Wear life: UTQG wear rating of 300
- Improve comfort / ride / noise
- Enhanced wet performance
- Optimum Dry/Wet stopping distance
- Pilot Super Sport ZP provides exceptional grip and handling, cornering
ability and progressivity of drive: Total Performance
Corvette Stingray with Z51 Package:
- Tire structure / contact patches optimized for track- critical performance
- Dual-tread compound and pattern for near-racing-slick grip and handling
- Blend of PSS and PSC along with more race technology transfer for serious track performance
How can both be called Pilot Super Sport ZP?
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Reading the slides from the Bash it's easy to see why the OP refers to the "road" tire and the "track" tire
The 18"/19" Pilot Super Sport ZP:
- 1G cornering capability
- Lower energy consumption (unique low RR compounds)
- Wear life: UTQG wear rating of 300
- Improve comfort / ride / noise
- Enhanced wet performance
- Optimum Dry/Wet stopping distance
- Pilot Super Sport ZP provides exceptional grip and handling, cornering
ability and progressivity of drive: Total Performance
Corvette Stingray with Z51 Package:
- Tire structure / contact patches optimized for track- critical performance
- Dual-tread compound and pattern for near-racing-slick grip and handling
- Blend of PSS and PSC along with more race technology transfer for serious track performance
How can both be called Pilot Super Sport ZP?
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Last edited by ZL-1; 05-03-2013 at 10:34 AM.
#5
Team Owner
Just in case you didn't know the differences between standard and Z51.
Standard:
18" Front
19" Rear
Fitted with road tires
Cast Aluminum
35mm shocks
Z51:
19" Front
20" Rear
Fitted with track tires
Slotted Rotors, bigger front brakes
Forged Aluminum, strong and lighter wheels
Standard:
18" Front
19" Rear
Fitted with road tires
Cast Aluminum
35mm shocks
Z51:
19" Front
20" Rear
Fitted with track tires
Slotted Rotors, bigger front brakes
Forged Aluminum, strong and lighter wheels
Being forged alone doesn't always mean lighter, although the style/shape (hollow or solid etc.) of the spokes themselves can make the difference of course.
Back in the C5 Z06 era, the cast 2002-2004 rims were actually slightly lighter than the forged 2001 versions (same sizes of course).
#6
According to the video with Jim Mero and the Chassis Engineer (forget his name), the Forged wheels are indeed heavier than the cast wheels due to the size difference. However, the forged wheels are lighter than they would have been if they had been cast. The engineer was saying they went forged in order to save weight and in order to give added space for the brake calipers. They had some cross-section views of the wheels in the presentation and the walls sure looked pretty thin. They also had a cool video of how the wheels are formed.
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#7
Race Director
Forged wheels are lighter in certain aplications due to the fact that forging the metal makes it stronger, hence less materal is needed for desired strength characteristics.
#9
Forging provides the needed strength at less weight than the casting process but there is no free lunch thus the higher cost of the forging process.
#10
Race Director
Base package looks better all the time....unless your planning on really tracking the car at places such as Laguna Seca.
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks
#11
Le Mans Master
Just in case you didn't know the differences between standard and Z51.
Standard:
18" Front
19" Rear
Fitted with road tires
Cast Aluminum
35mm shocks
Z51:
19" Front
20" Rear
Fitted with track tires
Slotted Rotors, bigger front brakes
Forged Aluminum, strong and lighter wheels
45mm shocks
The forged aluminum wheels and bigger slotted rotors alone would make the Z51 package a good deal. Not to mention other goodies. HOwever, it does add some weight.
Standard:
18" Front
19" Rear
Fitted with road tires
Cast Aluminum
35mm shocks
Z51:
19" Front
20" Rear
Fitted with track tires
Slotted Rotors, bigger front brakes
Forged Aluminum, strong and lighter wheels
45mm shocks
The forged aluminum wheels and bigger slotted rotors alone would make the Z51 package a good deal. Not to mention other goodies. HOwever, it does add some weight.
#12
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Base package looks better all the time....unless your planning on really tracking the car at places such as Laguna Seca.
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks
#13
Base package looks better all the time....unless your planning on really tracking the car at places such as Laguna Seca.
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks
They are street tires... just a more aggressive compound based on what I have heard. You won't need to replace them but they might wear out more quickly.
#14
Base package looks better all the time....unless your planning on really tracking the car at places such as Laguna Seca.
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks
2LT Trim Level (for the HUD)
Z51 Performance Package
Magnetic Selective Ride Control (including Performance Traction Management)
Variable Tuned Performance Exhaust
All I would add to that would be the Sat Nav, the black Z51 wheels & (most likely) the Carbon Flash painted side mirrors & spoiler (a 'Z51-required' option)…
#15
Safety Car
Base package looks better all the time....unless your planning on really tracking the car at places such as Laguna Seca.
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks
but the Z51 is a great $$ deal for those who choose it ..just my 2 cents ..
The Dog ( old dog ) woof.................
Last edited by StrayDog; 05-03-2013 at 12:30 PM. Reason: more babble
#16
Le Mans Master
I agree with the statement that MOST people do not need the Z-51 Performance Package, and I am one of them. My track days (and I had a few) are long gone, and I want the car to cruise, and enjoy during my retirement years. So I think I will forgo the Z-51 option and just enjoy the cruising and driving option at a substantial savings...
#17
Base package looks better all the time....unless your planning on really tracking the car at places such as Laguna Seca.
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks
1G cornering, 300 treadwear, better in all kinds of weather, no dry sump which is not needed for a street driven vette, lighter...yep I'll save the 2800 bucks
I'm opting out of the Z51 as well, and the biggest reason is weight as some articals on the internet have stated the Z51 package will weigh anywhere from 150-200lbs more
One thing you stated, which surprised me, is that the base Stingray is capable to pull 1G in corners??? can anyone confirm this is true? If so, that's fantastic for a car that doesn't have a rear sway bar
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