The Word Original
#1
Racer
Thread Starter
The Word Original
I have a 77' thats completely stock with Numbers Matching Engine and Drive Train. The Interior is all Original. It only has 38,000 miles on it. Looking at the car it looks the way it left the factory. Yes, the brakes. belts, hoses, radiator and the other BS has been done over the last 35. The only things that has been changed on the car is an After Market Radio, The BF Goodrich Tires and a Repainted the Original Code 80 color about 12 years ago..... The question I have is I want to get a Show Board. And will it be fair to use the word "ORIGINAL" on the Show board, since I don't have the factory radio, tires and it's a repaint. But it is painted to code and tires needed to be replaced.... CAN I CALL IT "ORIGINAL"
Last edited by news2me; 11-22-2012 at 10:39 PM.
#2
Burning Brakes
Call it NCRS gold certified.
Just call it unrestored. Repaint is not a restoration to me. All of the others qualify as maintenance to me.
Just call it unrestored. Repaint is not a restoration to me. All of the others qualify as maintenance to me.
#5
Le Mans Master
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Oxford MA-----You just lost the game!!!!
Posts: 5,948
Likes: 0
Received 62 Likes
on
52 Posts
Here's what the dictionary has to say about the word "original". Let your conscience be your guide. I think you know the answer to your question, but you're looking for someone to tell you it's OK.
Keep the shiny side up!
Scott
Keep the shiny side up!
Scott
#6
Team Owner
Member Since: Sep 2006
Location: Westminster Maryland
Posts: 30,173
Likes: 0
Received 2,878 Likes
on
2,515 Posts
Hi,
Just curious.... how can repainting a car NOT be restoration?
Regards,
Alan
Just curious.... how can repainting a car NOT be restoration?
Regards,
Alan
#7
Perhaps specify "original paint color", if you are concerned about it. I agree that the repaint could certainly be a restoration.
The radio and tires should be obvious though.
I tried making a sign for mine and gave up when I realized everything I put on there might be questioned somehow.
good luck
The radio and tires should be obvious though.
I tried making a sign for mine and gave up when I realized everything I put on there might be questioned somehow.
good luck
Last edited by stingr4y; 11-23-2012 at 07:58 AM. Reason: better wording
#8
Safety Car
I would rather have a car that someone kept up on maintenance than a pretty non original paint job.
Paint is a part number on the cowl tag so its part of the car and if the body has been repainted then its no longer original.
You might as well up grade the engine into the 21st century with some new belts and hose and add some mags and headers, it won't be worth any less.
Paint is a part number on the cowl tag so its part of the car and if the body has been repainted then its no longer original.
You might as well up grade the engine into the 21st century with some new belts and hose and add some mags and headers, it won't be worth any less.
#9
Race Director
Exterior= repainted
Interior= replaced radio
Mechanical= belts, hoses, plugs, wires, filters, radiator, replaced
Chassis=Tires replaced, brakes, not much else mentioned? Shocks?
In all fairness to the all original car, what would be your answer?
WB
Interior= replaced radio
Mechanical= belts, hoses, plugs, wires, filters, radiator, replaced
Chassis=Tires replaced, brakes, not much else mentioned? Shocks?
In all fairness to the all original car, what would be your answer?
WB
#10
It could be argued that the paint, although possibly identical to the original colour applied by the OEM, is not the same type, manufacturer, method of application, level of gloss, etc. etc. etc.
I find the present NCRS flight judging rules to be very forgiving in this area.
#13
Team Owner
Member Since: Jun 2000
Location: Southbound
Posts: 38,928
Likes: 0
Received 1,469 Likes
on
1,248 Posts
Cruise-In II Veteran
You can call it anything you want to. It's your car. Why not say it's original except for the aftermarket stereo? Better yet, put the stock radio back in it and you won't lose any sleep over what term you use.
#14
Race Director
I think original and 77 vette don't mean much. If you think it makes it worth more I don't think so. When I was looking for a vette to modify I chose a 77 because it will be another 75 years before they are a collector car.
I don't mean to burst your bubble if you were trying to keep it all original to keep any value. I would make it how I want it to be and not worry.
I don't mean to burst your bubble if you were trying to keep it all original to keep any value. I would make it how I want it to be and not worry.
#15
Team Owner
Member Since: Jun 2000
Location: Southbound
Posts: 38,928
Likes: 0
Received 1,469 Likes
on
1,248 Posts
Cruise-In II Veteran
#17
Team Owner
You can't call it "unrestored" if it's had another paint job. And, you can't call it a "survivor" since lots of parts have been changed due to age/wear and you have a different paint job.
Why don't you just say that it is in 'factory' configuration with the original interior and the same paint color.
P.S. I interpret the term "original" as meaning that a specific part/piece came with THAT car from the factory.
Why don't you just say that it is in 'factory' configuration with the original interior and the same paint color.
P.S. I interpret the term "original" as meaning that a specific part/piece came with THAT car from the factory.
#18
Le Mans Master
Just call it "stock"
#20
Administrator
Member Since: Jul 2000
Location: About 1100 miles from where I call home. Blue lives matter.
Posts: 51,421
Received 5,331 Likes
on
2,775 Posts
Describe the car as "mostly original design," "stock configuration," etc. There's nothing stock about the radio. "Almost completely stock" seems like a pretty good description.
Clearly there's no rules and you can do whatever you want, but as Easy Mike pointed out, when you park next to someone who actually has an original car, you'll end up thinking about it.