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Old 06-11-2011, 04:07 PM
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Is there any interest in Upgraded radiators, and heat exchanger systems?

Lous car with 750 rwhp blistered the coolant temp at the Lonestar classic 3 weeks ago. We just finished a totally new radiator, heat exchanger, charge air cooler reservoir and front inlet.

Testing at Motorsports ranch yeilded nearly a 50* drop in coolant temps, however, we did remove the AC condenser for the upcoming hill climb. Having said that though, coolant temps on the first stint never reached over 195 in the texas heat ( 98* that day) second stint and third stint saw 200 and 202*. Oil temps were with in 20* of water temp at all time, and trans temp was significantly cooler, due to the drop in coolant temp. Previous coolant temps with in one lap, were 250+.

Were prepping the car for the hill climb next weekend, pics soon. Its pretty trick.


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Ant, Louis -

Originally Posted by Anthony @ LGMotorsports
Is there any interest in Upgraded radiators, and heat exchanger systems?
Keep me updated on the progress. Sounds promising.

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I'm looking into heat exchanger upgrades. Keep me posted please.
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Enhanced cooling is always a good thing. Please keep us informed.
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^^^^ I agree.
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I'm going to get with Louis and get some pictures once we are happy with them of the new setup.

Very excited after the first test that Lou and Louis did with the car last week, and the hill climb is going to give us even more data for it.
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Did you guys have the heat exchanger before changing the radiator. I'm just trying to figure out exactly which parts were responsible for the drop of 50 degrees. That's awesome though. This car runs seriously hot and gets heat soaked bad when drag racing. I'm sure road racing is better due to air flow.
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Originally Posted by 355Spider
Did you guys have the heat exchanger before changing the radiator. I'm just trying to figure out exactly which parts were responsible for the drop of 50 degrees. That's awesome though. This car runs seriously hot and gets heat soaked bad when drag racing. I'm sure road racing is better due to air flow.
road racing is far more strenuous on the cooling system than drag racing.
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road racing is far more strenuous on the cooling system than drag racing.
355 Spider was not wrong

Road racing does not have anywhere near the time periods of no air flow while still building heat that drag racing does.

It is the time of no airflow that causes heat soak....... not running all out

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Originally Posted by 355Spider
Did you guys have the heat exchanger before changing the radiator. I'm just trying to figure out exactly which parts were responsible for the drop of 50 degrees. That's awesome though. This car runs seriously hot and gets heat soaked bad when drag racing. I'm sure road racing is better due to air flow.
Yes, we had the larger heat exchanger in the car for over a year now as it was done before the Hill climb last year. That was helping the blower air, but nothing for engine coolant.

The car gets very very hot under road racing conditions. Intake air increases, water temp goes up, tranny temps go up....it gets VERY hot during even a 5-8 minute session on track. JVP can tell you, even a stock car will run 250 water temps during a 20 minute session on track.
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I'm in - waiting for updates. I do want to keep my A/C. Always wondered why some A/C output could not be diverted to cool engine temps...
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Originally Posted by Shurshot
355 Spider was not wrong

Road racing does not have anywhere near the time periods of no air flow while still building heat that drag racing does.

It is the time of no airflow that causes heat soak....... not running all out

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Not sure what you're talking about, as I've done both, and dr doesn't even hold a candle to rr.
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Originally Posted by OJCrush08
I'm in - waiting for updates. I do want to keep my A/C. Always wondered why some A/C output could not be diverted to cool engine temps...
Your suggestion would basically heat the engine up (A/C compressor load) to cool the engine down. There's no net gain there, and may even be a net loss overall.

Also, under full WOT, the compressor kicks off. I know this first hand because I used to run my A/C at the track. At WOT at speed, the air coming out of the vents was hotter than ambient. As soon as I let off WOT, the vent air was cooler again.

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I am just testing the temps of the the new chiller for the blower on tue (14th) I'll try to post as soon as I know. Mike Thermos
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I am just testing the temps of the the new chiller for the blower on tue (14th) I'll try to post as soon as I know. Mike Thermos

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Your suggestion would basically heat the engine up (A/C compressor load) to cool the engine down. There's no net gain there, and may even be a net loss overall.

Also, under full WOT, the compressor kicks off. I know this first hand because I used to run my A/C at the track. At WOT at speed, the air coming out of the vents was hotter than ambient. As soon as I let off WOT, the vent air was cooler again.

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I agree...... Whenever any temperature problem occurs first thing is to turn off the AC

When RR a pro-tour mexico style, I always turned the AC off because of the inherent power loss, but it seems the ZR1 must be already programmed this way for it to do what yours is doing.

What Lou and mthrmos are trying to do will be interesting to see...... especially considering their history with performance mods
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We are just getting the servers all up and going so I probably will not get pics up until we get back from the hill.

Wish us luck, we're going to make it two and a row for LG Motorsports and ZR1!!
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Originally Posted by Anthony @ LGMotorsports
Yes, we had the larger heat exchanger in the car for over a year now as it was done before the Hill climb last year. That was helping the blower air, but nothing for engine coolant.

The car gets very very hot under road racing conditions. Intake air increases, water temp goes up, tranny temps go up....it gets VERY hot during even a 5-8 minute session on track. JVP can tell you, even a stock car will run 250 water temps during a 20 minute session on track.
Anthony, at a 95F ambient day weekend before last at Motorsport Ranch 1.7CW course, I saw 291F oil temp and 250+ coolant temp 2/3 of the way through a 20 minute session as I was playing with a new well-driven Porsche GT3 RS. I wasn't too impressed with that as I figured the cooling system on the ZR1 was a bit more robust. Either way, it was still running great, but I'm sure the ECU was backing things off a little bit.


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