5/6 Speed Transmission Swap
#1
5/6 Speed Transmission Swap
Hello Everyone,
I recently dropped a 383 stroker into my 75 and would like to replace my Borg Warner t-10, 4 speed with either a 5 or 6 speed. Does anyone know of a transmission that will bolt right up to my existing bell housing with out any modifications?
Thank you
I recently dropped a 383 stroker into my 75 and would like to replace my Borg Warner t-10, 4 speed with either a 5 or 6 speed. Does anyone know of a transmission that will bolt right up to my existing bell housing with out any modifications?
Thank you
#2
Richmond 5 speed (1.00 5th, or OD 5th) or 6 speed (OD 6th gear). Uses factory bell housing, clutch, z bar, shifter location, speedo cable, driveshaft. Only mod required is to the trans mount. That cost me about $20 extra.
#3
Race Director
The problem is with the welded in cross members on the 4 speed cars. The Tremec 5 speeds can be done with leaving the member in but it is real tight. I have done a bunch on coversions from auto to 5 speed and 4 to 5 speeds. I always make the cross member removeable. It makes it way easier and for any future works it makes removal a breeze. I can drop the 5 speeds out in about 1/2 hour with removeable members. I had a Tremec in mine and now have a T56 6 speed. That requires a lot more work. The Tremec kits are a bolt in but are somewhat costly. There have been a lot of different 5 speeds put in C3 cars. Some bolt in some require more work. I have a car in my garage right now that I just put in a Tremec 5 speed from a Borg Warner 4 speed. Only takes a few hours now that I have done a bunch of these. Do your homework and see what you need for strength in the trans and do you want an overdrive transmission.
#4
Le Mans Master
World Class T-5 for me. Lots of fun for not a lot of coin.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...-finished.html
Good luck with your project !
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...-finished.html
Good luck with your project !
#5
Gordon, did you just cut the crossmember out and weld plates on the ends to just bolt together when installed in the frame? Does the structural integrity of the frame change at all? I want to do one of these installs in the future, but that crossmember is such a PITA.
#6
Race Director
I cut mine and welded on some brackets. Mine bolts from front to back. Some of the other installs have welded plates and bolt in side to side. I have not noticed and frame structure probelms my way. I just did another car the same way and it works out OK. Not as pretty as the other brackets but it works.
#7
If I was going to do it again, I would probably cut the original crossmember out and put in an aftermarket bolt in. I dont need the exhaust clearance since I'm running sidepipes.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Straig...ount,3279.html
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Straig...ount,3279.html
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#9
I'm guessing that a manual trans crossmember that has been cut and bolted together is at least as strong as an auto trans crossmember, probably stronger. The auto trans crossmember is held on by one main bolt and two smaller screws per side.
#10
Race Director
No need to take it anywhere. Find someone local. There are plenty of guys with welders on their trucks that will do it. I have 2 guys that I use and both are very reasonable. It would take them maybe a 1/2 hour to weld on the brackets. It really is not a big weld job to do.
#11
Instructor
In the process of putting in a T45Rs 5 speed overdrive right now. I have a 4 speed car with a welded in crossmember and I did not cut it out and weld in brackets. The only mod I had to make was to cut a hole in a slightly different place in the trans tunnel for the shifter but it looks stock with the shifter console back in place.
I was pulling the engine anyway to freshen it up so it was not a big deal. I will say that if I need to pull the trans or service the clutch assembly at a later date, I will cut out the crossmember instead of pulling the motor again.
I was pulling the engine anyway to freshen it up so it was not a big deal. I will say that if I need to pull the trans or service the clutch assembly at a later date, I will cut out the crossmember instead of pulling the motor again.
#12
I figure if I'm going to put a new tranny in, I might as well cut the crossmember then, considering future work as you mentioned. I guess I'm most afraid of actually cutting my crossmember, never really done anything like that. There's two place I'd like to get patched on my frame anyways, so since I need to take it to a frame shop anyways, might as well have them do it.
#13
Instructor
If you're going to a good frame shop, I am sure they can do a great job fixing your frame and modifying it so it could be returned to a factory look at a later time. That's probably what I should have done, just could not bring myself to cut it out right now. Would have made my swap a lot easier!
#14
Yep, I've already pulled the engine/tranny, sat it back in, pulled it out, etc. too many times. That damn cross member is going to be removable next time! My frame is not great, but it's not horrible. I'd like to take it to a frame shop, have them weld some areas and maybe clean up the frame. Not really sure what a frame shop's capability is with the body on, but I'm willing to pay some money to get my frame better than it is now. Perhaps they can clean it up and put some kind of protecting coating on it? I've seen awesome looking frames on here, but they're all pretty much frame-off jobs and that just isn't going to happen for me.
#15
Take a look...
If I had to do it again, I would use that kit in one of the messages above. All you have to add is the parking brake wheel bracket, and it would make the exhaust work a lot simpler.
But, you can see how I did mine below....
But, you can see how I did mine below....
Last edited by carriljc; 11-27-2010 at 10:55 AM. Reason: spelling
#17
I swapped in a Richmond 6sp for my old M20. My crossmember was solid so had to modify it to be a 2 piece.Took some pics and details at this location.
http://69vettester.com/richmond.htm
6speed in a c3 is the cats meow , youll love it.
http://69vettester.com/richmond.htm
6speed in a c3 is the cats meow , youll love it.