94 octane non ethanol gas
#1
Team Owner
Thread Starter
94 octane non ethanol gas
There is a website that list gas stations that have gas without ethanol but it doesn't seem to be up to date. Here in Springfield, MO(southwest Missouri on I-44) we have Eagle Stop Phillips 66 stations that have 94 octane without ethanol (87 & 89 octane have ethanol) and Rapid Roberts Conoco with 93 non ethanol(some only have 91 non ethanol, don't know why they all don't have 93). We also have Signal with 91 octane without ethanol. The Phillips 66 and the Conoco are Top Teir stations.
If you are traveling through this area on vacation and are needing high octane gas without the ethanol, check these stations out. If you live around these parts, hope this info will help you out, especially if you have F/I or a Z06.
I thought that if those who read this post would also list the names and octane and with/without ethanol of the gas available in their areas that it would help those traveling in strange locations and looking to get good gas.
We have nine cars traveling through Arkansas, Mississippi, and Alabama to drive at Talladega July 4th weekend and I don't have a clue as to where high octane (93-94) non ethanol gas can be purchased during our trip. My Z06 does not like 91 octane in hot weather.
If you are traveling through this area on vacation and are needing high octane gas without the ethanol, check these stations out. If you live around these parts, hope this info will help you out, especially if you have F/I or a Z06.
I thought that if those who read this post would also list the names and octane and with/without ethanol of the gas available in their areas that it would help those traveling in strange locations and looking to get good gas.
We have nine cars traveling through Arkansas, Mississippi, and Alabama to drive at Talladega July 4th weekend and I don't have a clue as to where high octane (93-94) non ethanol gas can be purchased during our trip. My Z06 does not like 91 octane in hot weather.
Last edited by JoesC5; 05-17-2010 at 10:24 PM.
#2
Team Owner
The stations here in middle TN that have gas with no ethanol change frequently. For now, the station where I buy premium for the C6 has ethanol only in their regular gas.
#3
Team Owner
Thread Starter
They might also have it in their middle grade as I believe that most, if not all, stations store gas in reg 87 and premium 91,92, 93 or 94 and blend reg & premium at the pump to get the middle grade 89 octane.
#4
Burning Brakes
There is a website that list gas stations that have gas without ethanol but it doesn't seem to be up to date. Here in Springfield, MO(southwest Missouri on I-44) we have Eagle Stop Phillips 66 stations that have 94 octane without ethanol (87 & 89 octane have ethanol) and Rapid Roberts Conoco with 93 non ethanol(some only have 91 non ethanol, don't know why they all don't have 93). We also have Signal with 91 octane without ethanol. The Phillips 66 and the Conoco are Top Teir stations.
If you are traveling through this area on vacation and are needing high octane gas without the ethanol, check these stations out. If you live around these parts, hope this info will help you out, especially if you have F/I or a Z06.
I thought that if those who read this post would also list the names and octane and with/without ethanol of the gas available in their areas that it would help those traveling in strange locations and looking to get good gas.
We have nine cars traveling through Arkansas, Mississippi, and Alabama to drive at Talladega July 4th weekend and I don't have a clue as to where high octane (93-94) non ethanol gas can be purchased during our trip. My Z06 does not like 91 octane in hot weather.
If you are traveling through this area on vacation and are needing high octane gas without the ethanol, check these stations out. If you live around these parts, hope this info will help you out, especially if you have F/I or a Z06.
I thought that if those who read this post would also list the names and octane and with/without ethanol of the gas available in their areas that it would help those traveling in strange locations and looking to get good gas.
We have nine cars traveling through Arkansas, Mississippi, and Alabama to drive at Talladega July 4th weekend and I don't have a clue as to where high octane (93-94) non ethanol gas can be purchased during our trip. My Z06 does not like 91 octane in hot weather.
#5
Le Mans Master
Are you sure any of this is true, as most gasoline's now contain at least 5 or 6% ethanol to replace the phased out MTBE anti knock compound additive's. Usually if ethanol content is below 10%, doesn't need to be listed. Pretty much reality, and not much we can do about it. Also, don't assume all gas is the same. A few year's back here in Michigan, there was a large pipe line break, causing local fuel shortages. Plenty of availible fuel in surrounding state's, but couldn't be trucked here, because of different seasonal flash point blend's. Nice to see our government tax dollar's at work here.
#6
Burning Brakes
Are you sure any of this is true, as most gasoline's now contain at least 5 or 6% ethanol to replace the phased out MTBE anti knock compound additive's. Usually if ethanol content is below 10%, doesn't need to be listed. Pretty much reality, and not much we can do about it. Also, don't assume all gas is the same. A few year's back here in Michigan, there was a large pipe line break, causing local fuel shortages. Plenty of availible fuel in surrounding state's, but couldn't be trucked here, because of different seasonal flash point blend's. Nice to see our government tax dollar's at work here.
#8
Le Mans Master
That's easy in a socialist country where the government owns everything and just prints whatever money is needed. That dollar is worthless anyway.
Even major stations change often. A local Chevron had sticker that said "Contains NO ethanol" and the next time I went it the stickers said "Contains 10% ethanol". Many states do not require stickers and many states require ALL gas contain ethanol. The EPA then steps in and requires ethanol in all major cities.
When traveling I fill up on the Interstate because I figure the volume is higher so less chance of getting old gas. I stay away from filling up near any major cities trying to stay away from the EPA requirement of ethanol. Then I hope for the best.
Even major stations change often. A local Chevron had sticker that said "Contains NO ethanol" and the next time I went it the stickers said "Contains 10% ethanol". Many states do not require stickers and many states require ALL gas contain ethanol. The EPA then steps in and requires ethanol in all major cities.
When traveling I fill up on the Interstate because I figure the volume is higher so less chance of getting old gas. I stay away from filling up near any major cities trying to stay away from the EPA requirement of ethanol. Then I hope for the best.
#9
Team Owner
Thread Starter
Without getting into all the ins and outs of gasoline, the terminal that feeds that market is out of Mt. Vernon. ConocoPhillips is the same company, and hence the same gas. I believe it's even their pipeline that feeds out of Ponca City. There is nothing other than 91 octane premium through that terminal by ConocoPhillips. If you blended it with ethanol, it would meet the 94 octane rating. So, if your getting 94 octane in SW Missouri, it's because it has ethanol in it. Missouri no longer requires that pumps be labeled if the product contains ethanol or not, but it previously did.
"The Missouri Renewable Fuel Standard Act
On January 1, 2008, the Missouri Renewable Fuel Standard becomes effective. Under this standard, all gasoline offered for sale in Missouri must contain 10% ethanol.
A few exemptions to the standard will allow gasoline without ethanol to be sold:
•When ethanol blends purchased at wholesale exceed the price of gasoline
•When selling premium unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 91 or higher
•Gasoline sold at airports
•Gasoline sold at marinas
Although premium is exempted from the requirement, it may be blended with ethanol.
Missouri does not require ethanol labeling on gasoline dispensers. Therefore, if a consumer has a specific application that requires a fuel without ethanol, the consumer must purchase premium unleaded gasoline with an octane of 91 or higher that is also advertised as not containing ethanol."
If the pump says that their premium is 94 octane and the sticker on the pumps says that their premium does not contain ethanol, I believe them as in both cases it is against the law to missrepresent the octane rating and whether the gas has ethanol or not. Missouri does not require the retailers to state on their pumps whether the gas contains ethanol or not, but to advertize it as not containing ethanol when it does, is against the law.
Last edited by JoesC5; 05-18-2010 at 08:56 AM.
#11
Melting Slicks
Unless you own a testing lab, just assume that you are being handed a pile of BS in most cases. It's a blind item, and one has to wonder who is less honest, the folks that produce and refine it, or the "regulators" that are turning their heads the other way.
#12
Team Owner
Thread Starter
The Eagle Stop Phillips 66 stations(94 w/o ethanol) that I use are at S Kimbrough Ave at E Battlefield Rd, and W Republic Rd at the West Bypass. The Rapid Roberts that I use (93 w/o ethanol) is at Fremont and E Republic Rd. All three on the south side of town.There are some of the Rapid Roberts Conoco that have 91 w/o ethanol so it's best to check if you don't use the ones I listed(from personal experience).
#13
Team Owner
Thread Starter
I believe that all states, except for maybe 3 or 4, require octane testing to be included with their other gasoline testing.
#14
Le Mans Master
Has anyone done dyno testing to see if there is an HP loss between 93 rated fuels with and without ethanol, base on the same engine, conditions, etc.?
#15
Safety Car
http://www.fuel-testers.com/
Last edited by pettvette; 05-18-2010 at 01:53 PM.
#17
Team Owner
There is a website that list gas stations that have gas without ethanol but it doesn't seem to be up to date. Here in Springfield, MO(southwest Missouri on I-44) we have Eagle Stop Phillips 66 stations that have 94 octane without ethanol (87 & 89 octane have ethanol) and Rapid Roberts Conoco with 93 non ethanol(some only have 91 non ethanol, don't know why they all don't have 93). We also have Signal with 91 octane without ethanol. The Phillips 66 and the Conoco are Top Teir stations.
If you are traveling through this area on vacation and are needing high octane gas without the ethanol, check these stations out. If you live around these parts, hope this info will help you out, especially if you have F/I or a Z06.
I thought that if those who read this post would also list the names and octane and with/without ethanol of the gas available in their areas that it would help those traveling in strange locations and looking to get good gas.
We have nine cars traveling through Arkansas, Mississippi, and Alabama to drive at Talladega July 4th weekend and I don't have a clue as to where high octane (93-94) non ethanol gas can be purchased during our trip. My Z06 does not like 91 octane in hot weather.
If you are traveling through this area on vacation and are needing high octane gas without the ethanol, check these stations out. If you live around these parts, hope this info will help you out, especially if you have F/I or a Z06.
I thought that if those who read this post would also list the names and octane and with/without ethanol of the gas available in their areas that it would help those traveling in strange locations and looking to get good gas.
We have nine cars traveling through Arkansas, Mississippi, and Alabama to drive at Talladega July 4th weekend and I don't have a clue as to where high octane (93-94) non ethanol gas can be purchased during our trip. My Z06 does not like 91 octane in hot weather.
If the website you mentioned is national, how about a link!
I have stopped or called just about every station I know of in a 10 mile radius and want some real gas. I store gas for an emergency generator and have a bunch of 2 stroke small engines!
Thanks!
#18
Team Owner
I actually go out of my way to find gas with Ethanol.. Less money for the Arabs is good in my book!!
#19
Go here
http://pure-gas.org/
Most of them listed are up to date. However, I'm finding that the ones in Texas are starting to dry up one by one, and I think pretty soon they will all be gone. I believe there may be a federal mandate that kicks in sometime this year that will force EVERY station to go to E10, regardless of what state you are in.
http://pure-gas.org/
Most of them listed are up to date. However, I'm finding that the ones in Texas are starting to dry up one by one, and I think pretty soon they will all be gone. I believe there may be a federal mandate that kicks in sometime this year that will force EVERY station to go to E10, regardless of what state you are in.
#20
Team Owner
Go here
http://pure-gas.org/
Most of them listed are up to date. However, I'm finding that the ones in Texas are starting to dry up one by one, and I think pretty soon they will all be gone. I believe there may be a federal mandate that kicks in sometime this year that will force EVERY station to go to E10, regardless of what state you are in.
http://pure-gas.org/
Most of them listed are up to date. However, I'm finding that the ones in Texas are starting to dry up one by one, and I think pretty soon they will all be gone. I believe there may be a federal mandate that kicks in sometime this year that will force EVERY station to go to E10, regardless of what state you are in.