Darton sleeved 427 w/ L92 heads project begins
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Darton sleeved 427 w/ L92 heads project begins
The dyno mule is getting a little tired so it's time to freshen it up. I thought about selling it and getting a C6 GS vert but I just can't justify the cost for a toy I drive 4-5k and year.
My engine was the first build in the country using the then new L92 heads. I wanted to see what could be done with the GM casting. Everyone poo poo'd the idea then but gradually came around. I've had 3 cams, stock and WCCH CNC'd heads of various compression ratios and other iterations. Everything that was done was done the make good power and keep the car very mild. The car currently makes 521/480 and drives very close to stock with massive tip in. 386RWT at 2200 RPM is nuts.
Here's the build thread from LS1tech:
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/genera...us-plan-b.html
In talking with Shawn and Ed at Virginia Speed we decided that for the cost difference it made sense - if any can be made of any of this - to resleeve the LS2 block using Darton sleeves and increase the bore to 4.125. The only cost difference between staying a 403 and moving to a 427 is the cost of the sleeving which Shawn does in-house at VA Speed. I'll run the same crank, rods, cam, Melling oil pump, etc and top end. The extra bore will really make the L92 heads shine by unshrouding the valves.
I know Shawn and Ed will be posting pics and comments along the way. We're trying to make this an informative technical thread for those interested.
Shawn and Ed made the drive up from VA Beach this morning to pick up the cruiser. Damon (MCLEOD) came by to lend moral support. Next time I see it it will have a 427 under the hood.
Thanks guys.
At least it was sunny..
On it's way to winter in Va Beach - again.
My engine was the first build in the country using the then new L92 heads. I wanted to see what could be done with the GM casting. Everyone poo poo'd the idea then but gradually came around. I've had 3 cams, stock and WCCH CNC'd heads of various compression ratios and other iterations. Everything that was done was done the make good power and keep the car very mild. The car currently makes 521/480 and drives very close to stock with massive tip in. 386RWT at 2200 RPM is nuts.
Here's the build thread from LS1tech:
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/genera...us-plan-b.html
In talking with Shawn and Ed at Virginia Speed we decided that for the cost difference it made sense - if any can be made of any of this - to resleeve the LS2 block using Darton sleeves and increase the bore to 4.125. The only cost difference between staying a 403 and moving to a 427 is the cost of the sleeving which Shawn does in-house at VA Speed. I'll run the same crank, rods, cam, Melling oil pump, etc and top end. The extra bore will really make the L92 heads shine by unshrouding the valves.
I know Shawn and Ed will be posting pics and comments along the way. We're trying to make this an informative technical thread for those interested.
Shawn and Ed made the drive up from VA Beach this morning to pick up the cruiser. Damon (MCLEOD) came by to lend moral support. Next time I see it it will have a 427 under the hood.
Thanks guys.
At least it was sunny..
On it's way to winter in Va Beach - again.
Last edited by WKMCD; 01-10-2010 at 02:17 PM.
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Another excellent adventure (said in my best, "Bill and Ted" movie voice)! I'm looking forward to following your new 427 engine build thread with pics and seeing the results of this new TORQUE MONSTER!
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Kevin, what pistons are you going with and what is the targeted compression on this 427?
Should definately pick up a decent amount of hp man. Best of luck on the new project.
Should definately pick up a decent amount of hp man. Best of luck on the new project.
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BTW: I just had a long talk with Richard at WCCH (proheads.com). He's been fine tuning his port program for the L92/LS3 heads and doing some work on the chamber. He has the intake ports flowing 380CFM of great quality air with excellent low and mid lift numbers.. He said the heads should be very comparable to LS7 heads when we get them back. He's putting in a 2.200" intake valve. He's really excited to be involved with this ongoing project again. We're excited he's involved also.
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Shawn told me he's using -8cc pistons which will net approximately the same CR I'm running now with the -2cc pistons on the 4.005 bore.
BTW: I just had a long talk with Richard at WCCH (proheads.com). He's been fine tuning his port program for the L92/LS3 heads and doing some work on the chamber. He has the intake ports flowing 380CFM of great quality air with excellent low and mid lift numbers.. He said the heads should be very comparable to LS7 heads when we get them back. He's putting in a 2.200" intake valve. He's really excited to be involved with this ongoing project again. We're excited he's involved also.
BTW: I just had a long talk with Richard at WCCH (proheads.com). He's been fine tuning his port program for the L92/LS3 heads and doing some work on the chamber. He has the intake ports flowing 380CFM of great quality air with excellent low and mid lift numbers.. He said the heads should be very comparable to LS7 heads when we get them back. He's putting in a 2.200" intake valve. He's really excited to be involved with this ongoing project again. We're excited he's involved also.
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Thats some good info Kevin, thanks for sharing. So if the heads will flow 380 cfm, how much does that intake of yours flow ? I know the 4 inch tube up front is not going to be the restriction, I'm wondering if the intake is going to be it though?
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The intake will remain the limiting factor. I really wished the LSx performed better on these heads.
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